"Horses For Courses"

[MrRobbo]

I could just as easily say your POV is comparing apples and oranges from my perspective.

The bottom line is you seem to think that if anyone has a different opinion to you because they don't understand the intricacies of the game which are only available to you; a somewhat lofty an arrogant view I might add.
I don't purport to be an expert , but have a reasonable understanding of the game having been watching it closely for 60 years.
I know what works and doesn't work.

I know what I observe with my own eyes.

I support the points which I make and don't resort to ' if this happened...if that happened....if that hadn't happened...it's all great....he scored a great disallowed goal, he almost hit the post.'

This is often the basis of points that you make as if cloaking everything in positivity makes a blind difference to the near 3 goals per game we're conceding .

You need'nt try and sell these spurious arguments to me about how we should have beaten Everton and Ipswich.
The fact is we didn't , and perhaps you need to prepare your reasons as to why we didn't beat Leeds for the various reasons that only you are privileged to see.

Thats a long post to say nothing....

To parafrase

You original point was that Kamada and Pino's output was nothing.

All I ever ask is for ppl to be openminded. I'm merely saying, this season they have reasonable output. Enough to give us hope. Dont judge the attacking output under Glassner, it wasnt designed to maximise the attacking output.

 

[EagleEddie]

There’s plenty of discussion and opinion about rearranging the chairs on the Titanic, but personally, I think the issues run far deeper than formations. That said, I don’t have the answers or know what the solution is.

 

[PatrickA]

Thats a long post to say nothing....

To parafrase

You original point was that Kamada and Pino's output was nothing.

All I ever ask is for ppl to be openminded. I'm merely saying, this season they have reasonable output. Enough to give us hope. Dont judge the attacking output under Glassner, it wasnt designed to maximise the attacking output.

In your world of if's, but's and maybe's, facts seem of little interest to you, but here we go.
In their 84 games between them Pino and Kamada have contributed the princely sum of 2 goals and 6 assists.

Yes, you will no doubt retort ( here comes the 'but') , but Kamada has spent most of his time as a disciplined midfielder and ( here's the 'maybe'), maybe Sage's new attacking system will lead to a dramatic uptick in those numbers.

They are both good players, but not in front 3 roles taking the game to the opposition and driving into the hearts of opposing defences.

I don't agree with your theories on them, but that won't surprise you.
It's a game of opinions

 

[MrRobbo]

In your world of if's, but's and maybe's, facts seem of little interest to you, but here we go.
In their 84 games between them Pino and Kamada have contributed the princely sum of 2 goals and 6 assists.

Yes, you will no doubt retort ( here comes the 'but') , but Kamada has spent most of his time as a disciplined midfielder and ( here's the 'maybe'), maybe Sage's new attacking system will lead to a dramatic uptick in those numbers.

They are both good players, but not in front 3 roles taking the game to the opposition and driving into the hearts of opposing defences.

I don't agree with your theories on them, but that won't surprise you.
It's a game of opinions

You are wring there, facts are very important to me.

e.g. Kamada had 17 shots in the league last season. Less than JP, Sarr, Warton, Munoz, Mitchel, Lacroix. So its not a surprise he didnt score or look like scoring. In Galsners system his role wasn't to get himself into those attacking positons.

Already this season he has a goal and 3 assists. That isn't maybe's. Last season he had 1 goal and 5 assists. You are deciding to ignore the stats of this seaason and pass them off as buts and maybes.

All I'm saying is both theoretically and statistically he is demonstration that he CAN have a better output in a different system.

Is it enough. We dont know yet. But whats clear, at least to me is that you cant look at the output under one way of playing and make the decision that he

 

[eritheagle]

Our back 3 is very weak, and to have 2 of the 3 being loanees is poor decision making from Sage. Richards should be our senior CB but he looks very vulnerable without decent players either side of him.

Far cry from the Lacroix and Guehi days. Urgent investment is needed in a decent play balling centre back with leadership qualities in Jan.

That one from Bruges should be joining as he’s foot will be healed by then.

 

[JRW2]

There’s plenty of discussion and opinion about rearranging the chairs on the Titanic, but personally, I think the issues run far deeper than formations. That said, I don’t have the answers or know what the solution is.

.....or even what the problem is, by the sound of it. Like the rest of us.

 

[Runningman]

What will happen is Sage will stick rigidly to his formation, in the Premier league we will lose game after game until Sage is put out of his misery.

Lanzo. With due respect, would be more beneficial if you were put out of your misery ! lol

 

[Willo]

There’s plenty of discussion and opinion about rearranging the chairs on the Titanic, but personally, I think the issues run far deeper than formations. That said, I don’t have the answers or know what the solution is.

As one supporter opined to me on Saturday "Multi-layered issues".

 

[Faz]

Agree with the theory, but the reality is that a large swathe of players will be away on international duty again.
It will be a case of working with Hughes and the kids again during the break.

So bloody true - Hughes & the kids sounds hilarious

Only if he could somehow stop the defence from travelling & get them working together