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IsmaĂŻla Sarr
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Eagle-Trucker
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Wâš“ He wouldnt know what it is to be emotionally distressed.
Well I'm wearing distressed to the dance tonight , cheque please
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I'm starting to think that this is all because his song isn't as good as Mateta's.
manwitheagletattoo
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Why should a club, doesn’t matter who it is be blackmailed by a player/ agent because they want a move to a bigger and so called better club. Sarr was quite willing to sign a contract when Palace came knocking on the door. We have seen this so many times in modern day football, players going on strike, not in the right frame of mind, fretting injury for FFS because they want their own way. How many people in this world don’t like what work they are doing and would love to do something they love and earn unbelievable money.
Just for instants let’s say Sarr did get his move to greedy pool I bet he wouldn’t be playing week in week out, a club were you are expected to be on form week in week out, just the slightest dip, as we see so many times you then start the bench warming player. Then you have the same old story the player complaining that he is not getting enough playing time and of course what do you hear from the manager of this so called massive club I have to do best for this football club.
Just for instants let’s say Sarr did get his move to greedy pool I bet he wouldn’t be playing week in week out, a club were you are expected to be on form week in week out, just the slightest dip, as we see so many times you then start the bench warming player. Then you have the same old story the player complaining that he is not getting enough playing time and of course what do you hear from the manager of this so called massive club I have to do best for this football club.
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But it happens though doesn't it. The example set by Liverpool and Isak recently. Thanks for that Liverpool.
Teddy Eagle
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If he didn't like that he's really not going to like the new one.
mezzer
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As he's still contracted to Palace and we're paying his wages, set him to work helping out on the Main Stand renovations until he has recovered emotionally.
Shouldn't take long.
Shouldn't take long.
Agent wouldn't care about that. Doubt he'd care if he ever played.
At 28, a big move, big sign on fee and a big 5 year contract to take Sarr through to retirement is all he'd care about.
park the bus
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If a player downs tools and feigns injury what clause would likely be in a contract whereby a club can sanction such behaviour? I've wondered how players can get away with it.
The PFA agreed the rules to protect players. I believe the maximum a club can fine a player is 2 weeks wages.
I can think of many cases over the years where a manager has dropped a player into the bomb squad because they had a row and the player refuses to train with the kids. The club then stopped the wages of the player for as long as the dispute went on. So in that specific instance the player is being treated unfairly.
In the Sarr case I think that is unfair on the club.
PalazioVecchio
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yes, for certain Sarr is deadly in front of goal. But it baffles me how these Giant clubs will sign a known cry-baby ? a trouble-maker.
Your past-history is the best predictor for your future. Reminds me of Mario Ballotelli..... not really top-drawer talent if he keeps throwing his toys out of the pram.
Teddy Eagle
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More than reasonable. Who among us wouldn't willingly sell their house and all it's contents and get a second job to donate to a fund to help him through the emotional maelstrom engulfing he's undergoing?
Save Dwindlehurst
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We need to be known as the Club that doesn’t put up with being blackmailed by players and their agents. It’s the only way to prevent us signing bad eggs in the future.
Unfortunately Sarr has previous at Watford and in France which we most have known about so the club needs to think about that as well.
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Reports now stating Liverpool tried another of their low ball offers. The maximum they got to apparently was £45M and when we rejected that they didn’t follow up.
I agree I would’ve been ok with us selling him…but for £60M plus, NOT £45M!
Yup. The article about our transfer window stated that Liverpool were told an amount which would release Sarr but never came back with a counter offer. This suggest that he wasn't a priority for the Scousers and they were just trying it on (not that I blame them Palace do it all the time).
I hear you but there are plenty of examples of players making trouble to get a move and then been outstanding for their new club. Both Michael Essien and Dider Drogba kicked up a load of trouble to get their moves to Chelsea. I don’t imagine any Chelsea fan regards those signings as anything other than a brilliant success
PalazioVecchio
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in any walk of life. You sign a contract, you honour the contract. Maybe we should write a clause into every contract. You start being a trouble maker and you incur the wrath of the manager.
If i was manager i would get him to train with a brazilian jiu jitsu club. That would put manners on the little prima donna.
If i was manager i would get him to train with a brazilian jiu jitsu club. That would put manners on the little prima donna.
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TheBigToePunt
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The general approach (and not just at Palace) seems to be to appease the player and/or facilitate the sale. I can see the logic for this approach:
Ever since Bosman, clubs have had to work collaboratively with the player rather than simply tell him what's what whether he likes it or not, just because the clubs don't own the player in the same way they once did.
The clubs ability to trade advantageously depends on the player kicking on and doing well. However much he gets paid, his motivation to achieve his absolute best will probably be at least partly related to medium term personal aims (establishing himself as a premier league player, getting in the national team, getting a bigger contract, and moving on to bigger things). The club need the player to progress as much as the player does, so a rigid approach that demotivates the player might be self-defeating in the end.
They are very valuable assets that depreciate rapidly if they go off the boil. Hence, as tempting as it might be for a club to put it's foot down and tell a sulking, wantaway player to shut up and get on with it, that could be a very expensive way to cut one's nose off to spite one's face.
Of course, the flip side is that if the club buckles once, the door is open for it to happen again and again.
I'd like to see more clubs simply stand firm with players, even if only to change the culture a bit and reduce the number and frequency of transfers, which is both unseemly and undermines the construction of coherent teams.
Still, look at Fernandez at Chelsea. Acts like a total c*** in the world cup, including against England. Once, that would have made coming back here to live and work a bit tricky but not now, the club was always going to throw it's arms around him mo matter what. Then he acts like a c*** at Chelsea, again, and demands to leave. Do they punish him? Do they f***. They cave in, leaving themselves weaker and a direct rival stronger.
If they can't afford to stand up to player power then I don't hold out much hope that palace can.