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Is this the same Lampard who barely picked Esse in the championship once his usual players were fit?
What did he say? 'Hi, Son. Fancy coming back to Coventry and being even further from the team?'
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Is this the same Lampard who barely picked Esse in the championship once his usual players were fit?
Yup it doesn't ring true. My take was that as the season progressed Esse dropped down the pecking order at Coventry. If Lampard really does want him I think that says something about his judgement.Is this the same Lampard who barely picked Esse in the championship once his usual players were fit?
What did he say? 'Hi, Son. Fancy coming back to Coventry and being even further from the team?'
Neither of the options are non-standard as such. It has to be negotiated to have one, or to not have one. There is a fairly even split across all the deals done as to which way they go, and different clubs prefer one way or the other for various reasons.It's pretty standard to have a no fee recall clause but that has to be used during transfer windows. Other than that, there can be reasons to terminate the loan. Usually when set criteria aren't met (appearances, role etc) or when the player is unhappy, or a squad emergency. However, in those cases, it can lead to fees for breach of contract. But nobody usually takes loan litigation very far. We had problems a couple of times. Look no further than Uche this season.
+1Certainly wouldn't call it a terrible signing. Yes it's not worked out but the fee is relatively small these days and if more than 50% is recouped then I'm fine with taking these types of risks and actual wish we'd do a lot more. Realistically for every 5 of these types of signings you only need 2 or 3 to work out. It's what Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford currently do much better than us.
Sorloth was similar despite a horrific start, because time was on our side we still managed to get a fee back. It's why I can't understand when every now and then we decide to spend 30m plus on a player who has already gone through their 'youthful prospect' phase and therefore very unlikely to increase in value... And hence when it doesn't work out we're left with a player that adds little to the club but it's costing a fortune.
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When he signed I shared the view that he fits the profile of a Palace player - certainly ones who have done well in the past.I'd be interested to know why you'd think Esse fits the profile of a Palace player?
Ex-Millwall, seemingly disinterested/attitude issue, over priced and not very good. If that's the profile of a typical Palace player we're fooked!
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Not sure he said DEFINITELYSage has just said that he's definitely off this summer.
I wonder who has come in for him.
Sage has just said that he's definitely off this summer.
I wonder who has come in for him.
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Not sure he said DEFINITELY
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Well, Sage was true to his word.Sage has just said that he's definitely off this summer.
I wonder who has come in for him.
He's definitely gone definitely. MillwallMaybe he didn't say he's definitely off but that he definitely said he was off.
I hope the lad finds his form back on home turf. My Millwall mates tell me the club strategy is to take a player on loan and if he works out buy him at the end of the season.
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Well I hope it works and they pay £12m. We would break even.I hope the lad finds his form back on home turf. My Millwall mates tell me the club strategy is to take a player on loan and if he works out buy him at the end of the season.
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Winger? Esse can't beat an egg.When he signed I shared the view that he fits the profile of a Palace player - certainly ones who have done well in the past.
Slippery and tricky pacey wide forwards who are unpredictable, erratic, and lacking the consistency which - if they had it - would see them in a Champions League team. Even so, on their day they get the crowd on their feet and influence results over the course of a season.
From memory, Bolassie, Julian Gray, Rubins, Lakis, Bakary Saka, and probably many others fit this sort of description. Zaha initially was erratic but developed into a talismanic figure for us. Arguably you could say tha same about Eze.
Where I think the comparisons fall short is when a player joins but then fails to make an impact in the medium term, which is where I think the club is with Esse sadly. I hope he comes good but the likelihood is that if he has not made his mark by now then he unlikely will.
I doubt it, they don't pay that money. Still if he did well maybe other clubs would.Well I hope it works and they pay £12m. We would break even.
Tricky customer that egg though. He’s no yoke to play against. He can get a bit scrambled when the heat is on thoughWinger? Esse can't beat an egg.