Israel v Hamas

georgenorman said:
Of course you are of the Left, just like Wisbech you like to pretend otherwise. It is usually the Left that 'corrects' history - Stalin was a master at it.
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Left of you.

Wisbech voted Tory his whole life (till Johnson). Try telling die hard socialists he is "Left".

I voted Remain. I wanted free movement of European labour. Free movement of labour being at the core of right wing economic thinking. We would now be markedly wealthier with it.

You voted Leave with the trade unions in order to block free movement because you are a Bolshevik. Like all commie states, we have got poorer as a consequence.

Do you see where "which side are you on" type arguments lead?

I cant label myself on this board because it takes too bl00dy long and I am not sure there is a clear label for me. "Awkward"?? Perhaps one day we can find a name after a long beer...
 
cryrst said:
Egypt will not take Palestinians. You would be silly not to ask why !
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They are concerned they would import mass displacement camps like in other Arab states which would become permanent. They have to foot the bill in perpetuity for refugees with a myriad of needs. They would also and inevitably become hotbeds of seething resentment against Israel. It would not be long before Israel are attacking refugee camps on Egyptian soil with uncertain wider consequences.

Is that what you mean?
 
silvertop said:
Left of you.

Wisbech voted Tory his whole life (till Johnson). Try telling die hard socialists he is "Left".

I voted Remain. I wanted free movement of European labour. Free movement of labour being at the core of right wing economic thinking. We would now be markedly wealthier with it.

You voted Leave with the trade unions in order to block free movement because you are a Bolshevik. Like all commie states, we have got poorer as a consequence.

Do you see where "which side are you on" type arguments lead?

I cant label myself on this board because it takes too bl00dy long and I am not sure there is a clear label for me. "Awkward"?? Perhaps one day we can find a name after a long beer...
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You seriously believe what Wisbech says?
My primary reason for voting Leave was because I do not regard the EU as democratic as its citizens cannot elect those that make the laws that govern them.
Total free movement of people is insane. In the few instances where specific skilled people are required, allow them in with limited rights to remain.
Many unions backed Remain by the way.
You take a left wing stance on practically every issue, as does Wisbech, so it is pretty laughable for you both to say that you are some kind of Tories.
 
silvertop said:
They are concerned they would import mass displacement camps like in other Arab states which would become permanent. They have to foot the bill in perpetuity for refugees with a myriad of needs. They would also and inevitably become hotbeds of seething resentment against Israel. It would not be long before Israel are attacking refugee camps on Egyptian soil with uncertain wider consequences.

Is that what you mean?
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No. They are concerned that they would be fundamentalist Islamist terrorists operating within and projecting from Egyptian soil, and bring death and failure, just like they have in every single other nation that has them or has had them. Egypt has had the issue before, it doesn't want to lose what it has regained.

"Palestinians" are the scousers of the Islamic world.
 
silvertop said:
They are concerned they would import mass displacement camps like in other Arab states which would become permanent. They have to foot the bill in perpetuity for refugees with a myriad of needs. They would also and inevitably become hotbeds of seething resentment against Israel. It would not be long before Israel are attacking refugee camps on Egyptian soil with uncertain wider consequences.

Is that what you mean?
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Yes and Hamas
 
Settler killing and stealing of land shock !
Now being reported in mainstream media
www.bbc.co.uk

Israel re-establishes closed West Bank settlement, defying growing international protests

Thirty "pioneer families" have arrived on a wave of nationalism driven by Israel's government, but the rapid change has left nearby Palestinian residents fearful.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
Unfortunately, we all know it's too late. This genocide is being facilitated by Western/US arms and any dissent is shown the threat of US military action.

I never thought I would see Western Governments facilitate a genocide. But here it is. And it won't be stopped.
 
And the language used is misleading. "settlers" "expanding territory"

This is mass murder of the indigenous population, and theft of land on an unprecedented scale.

Thuggery, human butchery and stealing of land, totally endorsed by Western Governments. Just abhorrent.
 
georgenorman said:
You seriously believe what Wisbech says?
My primary reason for voting Leave was because I do not regard the EU as democratic as its citizens cannot elect those that make the laws that govern them.
Total free movement of people is insane. In the few instances where specific skilled people are required, allow them in with limited rights to remain.
Many unions backed Remain by the way.
You take a left wing stance on practically every issue, as does Wisbech, so it is pretty laughable for you both to say that you are some kind of Tories.
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Who said total free movement?

Literate Europeans.

And what type of literate Europeans leave countries that are wealthy to come here? Criminals? Welfare chasers? Refugees. No. Only an idiot thinks that.

They are either coming to ready jobs or entrepreneurs seeking opportunity. Or were. Either way they were more than welcome from me and led to economic prosperity with no dilution of our culture or attack on our values.

In short, they came, some stayed, some left. Free market in operation.

And don't make me laugh with some retrospective justification about sovereignity. It's xenophobia pure and simple.
 
silvertop said:
And don't make me laugh with some retrospective justification about sovereignity. It's xenophobia pure and simple.
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At the risk of making you or I laugh, how do you think the elected MEPs make the laws that govern the people that they represent?
By the way, why do you imply that my stated reasons for voting Leave were not my reasons at the time?
 
Forest Hillbilly said:
And the language used is misleading. "settlers" "expanding territory"

This is mass murder of the indigenous population, and theft of land on an unprecedented scale.

Thuggery, human butchery and stealing of land, totally endorsed by Western Governments. Just abhorrent.
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Getting ever more dramatic with your terminology doesn't make it more truthful
 
steeleye20 said:
The West is morally bankrupt.

It is, and the UK is complicit in genocide.


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Go and live in a non-Western country then. Why should we have to live among Jew-hating, Western-hating, Capitalism-hating people like you?
 
Yes, please just go you sponger. I don't know how you even have the gall to be here, living amongst people you hate in a culture you hate whilst you look longingly at other nations as if they are utopia.

f*** off.
 
Spindle said:
You can guarantee he goes on and on about the Jew at home as his wife rolls her eyes. She will be giving him a big "You idiot" as the cops turned up. Hopefully his phone is full of the hate that just came out of his mouth as evidence.
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It's pretty much nearly every Irish person. They see nothing wrong with it. You can see he fully believes he's well within his rights. And the cliche Irish of I'll kill you or get the boys to. Brilliant really. Doing ourselves some great favours. Honestly, the government is trying to cover up Pro Palestine terror activity as we speak. They let a bomber or two out on bail. Our usual MO when the government was not supporting the IRA either. The country is chock full of Islamic extremists. Some of the most dangerous in the world are here. A cursory glance would tell you that.
We have no intelligence services, no police intelligence, no police and, most importantly, no will to do anything. We know full well we might get the odd rape or murder - or even quite a few. But no Islamic bombs are going to go off here. Not on purpose anyway.
 
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