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It is hardly surprising, therefore that Chancellor Rachel Reeves then declared at the LFI (labour friends of Israel) annual lunch that progressive individuals should “unapologetically” be Zionists.

The route, including Andy Burnham, to the top of the labour party is by this method it seems.

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Eagle One said:
Bottom 8% isn't exactly a badge of honour though is it? And actually there are records kept on speaking appearances not just voting.

And that 8% presume includes the 7 sinn fein MPs who have a policy of not appearing in Parliament meaning in reality it's probably nearer the bottom 5 or 6%?

So do you have a line that Farage would have to cross before he'd lose your support?
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Try to be factually correct when you post , your FDS is not fuelled by facts.

I am not, unlike many on here, pre-judging the PSC investigation outcome.

If he is found to have broken the rules then he will have to suffer whatever the consequences are.
 
DanH said:
I work in tax too. I agree with Dan Neidle, she should have got some specialist advice. Twice.

Do you agree that Nigel should have the same treatment?
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And she was Deputy Prime Minister! Doesn’t say much about her judgement does it! Still any Labour politician who call Tories scum has a lot to answer for. The sort of rhetoric that has possibly caused the murder if AW and that Farage gets criticised for on a daily basis, from the left
 
CPFCSaturn said:
This isn’t America.

I don’t agree with involving his family but there’s no need to be so dramatic.

When was the last time a politician was killed by a ‘lefty’ in this country..? Let alone the daughter of a politician.



As a wider point, Farage is bent as anything - the skeletons will keep coming.
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I think there is....

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kevlee said:
All MPs should have adequate protection, and that means some might need more than others. I’m sure there are ways to deal with that through the house of. Commons. Most committees are cross bench and I’m sure the speaker could help deal with that. Winning the by- election isn’t going to guarantee him a bigger security budget- Reform will have the same number of seats and Labour will remain in power.
Having seen a lot of this ‘hounding his daughter’ stuff now online, including the videos of what happened, I think he is overreacting a bit. Remember he was the one wanting a clean break from Europe while being married to a German and as for deporting dual nationals, well he own kids are one and the same! I’m sure he has had bigger issues to deal with over the years in terms of press intrusion
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Do you think?

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Stirlingsays said:
Too scared to stand themselves because they know they would lose......but quite happy to fund Binface.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2075224621859717438
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It isn't fear, it's principle.

This is unprecedented. I recall one party standing aside to ensure the other gets in, but all of them?

Reform's stunt can be characterized in a whole number of ways, none of which are positive or speak well for Reform.

I suspect he will beat Bin Face; but even saying those words exposes his party to ridicule and this stunt as ill-advised.

Had he let the investigation conclude - and Farage is correct in his defence - it would have blown over and he could play the victim and be a hero among his followers. Win win.

Now he risks serious political backlash and the possible loss of his seat to a mildly amusing novelty candidate.
 
silvertop said:
It isn't fear, it's principle.

This is unprecedented. I recall one party standing aside to ensure the other gets in, but all of them?

Reform's stunt can be characterized in a whole number of ways, none of which are positive or speak well for Reform.

I suspect he will beat Bin Face; but even saying those words exposes his party to ridicule and this stunt as ill-advised.

Had he let the investigation conclude - and Farage is correct in his defence - it would have blown over and he could play the victim and be a hero among his followers. Win win.

Now he risks serious political backlash and the possible loss of his seat to a mildly amusing novelty candidate.
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An IPSOS poll has 'Binface' 12 pts ahead of Farage.
 
silvertop said:
It isn't fear, it's principle.

This is unprecedented. I recall one party standing aside to ensure the other gets in, but all of them?

Reform's stunt can be characterized in a whole number of ways, none of which are positive or speak well for Reform.

I suspect he will beat Bin Face; but even saying those words exposes his party to ridicule and this stunt as ill-advised.

Had he let the investigation conclude - and Farage is correct in his defence - it would have blown over and he could play the victim and be a hero among his followers. Win win.

Now he risks serious political backlash and the possible loss of his seat to a mildly amusing novelty candidate.
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Is the principle to deny the voters of Clacton an effective opposition to Farage.

Count Bin Man maybe funny but he should not be an MP. As I have said previously if the major parties don't want to face Farage independently the get a sensible unity candidate e.g. anti racist, anti Farage, pro EU blah blah.

Not standing a viable candidate is just playing games as Farage is doing.

You can't take the moral high ground if you don't throw your hat into the ring or something like that..
 
Badger11 said:
Is the principle to deny the voters of Clacton an effective opposition to Farage.

Count Bin Man maybe funny but he should not be an MP. As I have said previously if the major parties don't want to face Farage independently the get a sensible unity candidate e.g. anti racist, anti Farage, pro EU blah blah.

Not standing a viable candidate is just playing games as Farage is doing.

You can't take the moral high ground if you don't throw your hat into the ring or something like that..
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He started the games. The voters of Clacton already gave him a mandate for the parliamentary term and wouldn’t even be having to vote again unless he resigned and called the by-election.

And the fact you’re even having to type the sentence in bold shows how much the entire game has backfired on him.
 
DanH said:
He started the games. The voters of Clacton already gave him a mandate for the parliamentary term and wouldn’t even be having to vote again unless he resigned and called the by-election.

And the fact you’re even having to type the sentence in bold shows how much the entire game has backfired on him.
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Yes he did, but not standing is hardly taking the high ground. A strong unity candidate could sweep Farage from the political scene. But maybe his enemies rather like having him around as a bogeyman so the public can blame Farage instead of them.
 
DanH said:
He started the games. The voters of Clacton already gave him a mandate for the parliamentary term and wouldn’t even be having to vote again unless he resigned and called the by-election.

And the fact you’re even having to type the sentence in bold shows how much the entire game has backfired on him.
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Backfired?

He'll win easily and all the other parties are too scared to run against him because they know they would get their arse kicked.

And there's you trying to present that as some kind of win.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Backfired?

He'll win easily and all the other parties are too scared to run against him because they know they would get their arse kicked.

And there's you trying to present that as some kind of win.
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If you consider it, every single non reform voter can vote for Count Binface. Which will be silly but the media will love it. He would need over fifty percent of the vote to avoid this. Which is unlikely. Plus Binface is all over the media and social media.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Backfired?

He'll win easily and all the other parties are too scared to run against him because they know they would get their arse kicked.

And there's you trying to present that as some kind of win.
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What’s the point in spending time and money and attention in a totally unnecessary by-election you know you’ll lose when you can let Farage run against a man with a bin on his head?

All the other parties have done is return serve.
 
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