Immigration

[Spindle]

I apologise for the do one comment.

The 'no' comment or just trying to convey what people think is not how you came across. You said 'You would think that someone seeing these applicants first hand might realise how much we are weakened with them'. That's pretty much saying that given I've worked on this area you can't understand why I don't have a view more like yours, which respectfully I don't and I'm entitled to.

And as for Farage. I understand why he appeals to a lot of people but maybe not as popular as he himself and others think at the moment. I believe he does have questions to answer and like I said before if a politician from one of the other parties had received £5m in similar circumstances then Reform, Farage and a number of their supporters would bebaying for blood. Or would you deny that?

Nevermind Farage. You can get as upset as you want. If the elected governments do deliver people decide. And you would prefer Farage to Lowe, he would be next.

Yes I would expect you to notice that your applicants aren't the doctors and executives that the left claim the country needs and are likely to end up being a cost. I would think you'd notice their culture doesn't fit too. It sounds like paperwork and sob stories that win you over.

 

[Spindle]

Quite frankly a word salad of your own.

Since when did I say I'm against deportations of criminals? And why do you then draw conclusions that about hating ourselves so much?

Never said I'm against deportations of criminals or removals of illegals and failed asylum seekers. I support that. What I have said is I am against mass ICE style deportations.

ICE deport illegals and criminals. I would expect you to know that. And they have been around doing it for 25 years

 

[Spindle]

Haha! You really do take the biscuit, don't you.

Yes. Apartheid. Where Boers, who had colonised the country not of their birth, ruled the country, separated whites from blacks, ran a police state to keep the indigenous black population down for decade after decade, murdered black opponents for wanting to stop invading immigrants running their country.

Yup, those black, racist B*****.

And now, when South Africans are protesting against immigrants (like you are) , some of them illegal, they are racist.

Now tell me you were being sarcastic.

So they are out on the streets, attacking migrants, waving the national flag. = NOT RACIST

Got it.

 

[Spindle]

So who would you count as a illegal then? Reform have also said they'd rip up indefinite leave to remain for many.

Quite a lot.

And not just that, I consider Islamic expansion our greatest threat.

 

[Spindle]

Oh FFS of course not but there is a difference between beefing up Immigration Enforcement and being tougher on rights of appeal compared to the mass ICE style force that has created so much animosity and division in the USA.

And why's that a problem? . If you had more crime wouldn't you want more arrests?

It alarms me and explains a lot why we have an issue. We have a asylum worker here gutted that illegals are dealt with in the USA.

 

[Spindle]

Where is the video that shows him going to draw his gun? Answer - there isn't one. It was taken off him from under his coat and he was then shot multiple times whilst unarmed.

OK I don't think he should have taken a weapon to a protest but US law is clear you have a right to bear arms, even at a protest.

As for the lady. Very arguable that she charged at the ICE agent at speed and he could simply have got out the way and not reacted with deadly force.

Still let's see what the investigations eventually decide.

Who knew that an immigration worker would have loyalty like this. No wonder we have issues

 

[Spindle]

As for the yawns, hey you chose to come back on it with a inaccurate statement about the nurse drawing a firearm.

Oh, "the nurse". Said to make us think butter doesn't melt.

Did you see him kicking the s*** out of a police car, officers in it, earlier on. Worse than a Millwall thug.

 

[Spindle]

Well, they weren't passers by but they certainly were unlucky in meeting inadequately trained agents.

Should officers have to deal with this level of interference do you think? They never did when Biden was deporting as many as trump did

 

[Eagle One]

And why's that a problem? . If you had more crime wouldn't you want more arrests?

It alarms me and explains a lot why we have an issue. We have a asylum worker here gutted that illegals are dealt with in the USA.

As I said before several times I worked in that area in the earlier part of my career, in the past tense.

I've done many years of work directly with public, most of it towards removing people who shouldn't be here and some of it quite crazy. That's shaped the view I have today. If that alarms you then quite frankly I really don't care.

You are articulate and I respect that you have a strong view though obviously I don't agree with most of it. I see a lot of respect of differing political opinions from others on here. But that doesn't come from you when replying to people who don't largely tow your hardline views.

 

[Badger11]

Haha! You really do take the biscuit, don't you.

Yes. Apartheid. Where Boers, who had colonised the country not of their birth, ruled the country, separated whites from blacks, ran a police state to keep the indigenous black population down for decade after decade, murdered black opponents for wanting to stop invading immigrants running their country.

Yup, those black, racist B*****.

And now, when South Africans are protesting against immigrants (like you are) , some of them illegal, they are racist.

Now tell me you were being sarcastic.

I was in South Africa earlier this year. Our black guide (really nice guy) explained the history of the country. The area was originally colonised by hunter gatherers who in turn were displaced by Bantu people (today's blacks) mainly from West Africa and then came the whites.

So the country has a history of one group colonising another. So it's a bit rich that one group who displaced another group are now moaning about being displaced by another well you get my point.

Anyway just saying.

 

[HKOwen]

I was in South Africa earlier this year. Our black guide (really nice guy) explained the history of the country. The area was originally colonised by hunter gatherers who in turn were displaced by Bantu people (today's blacks) mainly from West Africa and then came the whites.

So the country has a history of one group colonising another. So it's a bit rich that one group who displaced another group are now moaning about being displaced by another well you get my point.

Anyway just saying.

Conventional wisdom is the Zulus killed and absorbed around a million people during the Mfecane

 

[PalazioVecchio]

I was in South Africa earlier this year. Our black guide (really nice guy) explained the history of the country. The area was originally colonised by hunter gatherers who in turn were displaced by Bantu people (today's blacks) mainly from West Africa and then came the whites.

So the country has a history of one group colonising another. So it's a bit rich that one group who displaced another group are now moaning about being displaced by another well you get my point.

sounds a bit like the 1640 Unionist-Planters in Northern Ireland moaning about newcomers (with new religions) who don't integrate into the old ways & languages. Moaning about the newcomers being violent and the newcomers forbidding their own women from marrying the locals. And them all running a Two Tier economy and parallel legal system - dissing the old religions as mumbo-jumbo.
Hypocrites.

 

[chris123]

I was in South Africa earlier this year. Our black guide (really nice guy) explained the history of the country. The area was originally colonised by hunter gatherers who in turn were displaced by Bantu people (today's blacks) mainly from West Africa and then came the whites.

So the country has a history of one group colonising another. So it's a bit rich that one group who displaced another group are now moaning about being displaced by another well you get my point.

Anyway just saying.

And unemployment running at over 30% and highest worldwide and prompting a lot of local discontent in Sunday's paper

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Conventional wisdom is the Zulus killed and absorbed around a million people during the Mfecane

let me guess. Killed all the men and also killed any women over the age of 35 ? We have seen this before.....ISIS, Boko Haram, the Yamnaya, the Khmer-Rouge, Vikings, Moorish-Spain. Its not only Grooming Gangs that are the horror.

 

[eaglesdare]

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-given-lengthy-prison-sentences-for-rape-of-woman-on-brighton-beach-13563576

"Two asylum seekers have been given lengthy prison sentences for repeatedly raping a woman on Brighton beach, while a third who filmed the attack has also been jailed."

 

[cryrst]

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-given-lengthy-prison-sentences-for-rape-of-woman-on-brighton-beach-13563576

"Two asylum seekers have been given lengthy prison sentences for repeatedly raping a woman on Brighton beach, while a third who filmed the attack has also been jailed."

6 years on extended licences. 6 minutes on a rope would do !

 

[Spindle]

As I said before several times I worked in that area in the earlier part of my career, in the past tense.

I've done many years of work directly with public, most of it towards removing people who shouldn't be here and some of it quite crazy. That's shaped the view I have today. If that alarms you then quite frankly I really don't care.

You are articulate and I respect that you have a strong view though obviously I don't agree with most of it. I see a lot of respect of differing political opinions from others on here. But that doesn't come from you when replying to people who don't largely tow your hardline views.

You're right, I can't respect your view when I see the assaults on our people and the destruction of our culture. Clearly you are ok with it but imagine if Lowe arrived and massive deportations began. Would you respect that opinion then? Doubt it, you're more likely to be supporting the idiots obstructing the law, like they do today.

 

[Eagle One]

You're right, I can't respect your view when I see the assaults on our people and the destruction of our culture. Clearly you are ok with it but imagine if Lowe arrived and massive deportations began. Would you respect that opinion then? Doubt it, you're more likely to be supporting the idiots obstructing the law, like they do today.

And there you go firing off again. I never said I was against deportations of foreign national criminals and being tougher in that regard. In fact I've said I support that.

Do I support mass indiscriminate deportations ICE style here. No I don't.

 

[cryrst]

And there you go firing off again. I never said I was against deportations of foreign national criminals and being tougher in that regard. In fact I've said I support that.

Do I support mass indiscriminate deportations ICE style here. No I don't.

I don’t recall the indiscriminate deportations bit.
Can you repost that one ?

 

[Spiderman]

I will just leave this here

Family of 18 from Gaza wins human rights challenge to come to Britain

The landmark case was brought after a Gazan-born mother-of-three - who came to the UK as a refugee and is now a British citizen - sought permission to bring her extended family here.

www.dailymail.com