Main Stand redevelopment thread

AmericanEagle said:
What annoys me is that as ST holders in the main stand we’ve had no information or contact at all about what’s going on and how it will affect us. Quite rude, really.
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I expect there is no relevant information to give. The new stand is being built over the old stand in phase one, so it wont effect ST holders for sometime. As timelines can change, I expect information will be given nearer the time, when dates can be confirmed.
As for being rude?
 
Palace Old Geezer said:
Something is happening. Photos courtesy of Sp1Eagle on BBS.
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Looks like they are going softly softly with the demolition to keep the near by residents happy. They could have done that in a day with a wrecking ball.

It is oddly entertaining to see visual evidence of the progress. Keep it coming I say.
 
AmericanEagle said:
What annoys me is that as ST holders in the main stand we’ve had no information or contact at all about what’s going on and how it will affect us. Quite rude, really.
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They can't be sure of timescale. Work get delayed regularly by weather and other logistical issues.

My guess is that season ticket holder will be moved to the Arthur Waite for the period when the new terracing and seating is installed and the stand is road tested and signed off, unless, they end up doing it in the closed season. I doubt that would be enough time.

We might even have no away fans for that period, who knows.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
They can't be sure of timescale. Work get delayed regularly by weather and other logistical issues.

My guess is that season ticket holder will be moved to the Arthur Waite for the period when the new terracing and seating is installed and the stand is road tested and signed off, unless, they end up doing it in the closed season. I doubt that would be enough time.

We might even have no away fans for that period, who knows.
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I assume the FA wouldn't allow us to preclude away fans? Give them hard hats and deckchairs
 
Didn't the club say that no main stand seats would be lost during the build? That's one of the complications, building the new stand around the old one so that we don't have a reduced capacity and nobody has to move. Well, nobody has to move until the final stage, when the old stand seating area is fully demolished and replaced by the lower tier of the new stand, although I thought they planned to do that in a summer.

The only issue I can see is whether existing main stand season ticket holders will get first refusal on the nearest equivalent seat in the new stand.
 
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Just in case there is a single living Palace supporter who somehow hasn't seen it, this shows the intended order of events...


There has been some talk of using concrete instead of steel since this video was released, but no suggestion that the basic plan would change.

Also, if the video is anything to go by the main stand demolition and new lower tier would seemingly have to happen in summer as the work would be undertaken from the pitch.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
Just in case there is a single living Palace supporter who somehow hasn't seen it, this shows the intended order of events...


There has been some talk of using concrete instead of steel since this video was released, but no suggestion that the basic plan would change.

Also, if the video is anything to go by the main stand demolition and new lower tier would seemingly have to happen in summer as the work would be undertaken from the pitch.
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Maybe , when the time comes, the summer pitch side availability can be extended by playing the last 4 games of the season & the first 4 of the next season away ? (I think Liverpool did something similar)
 
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TheBigToePunt said:
Didn't the club say that no main stand seats would be lost during the build? That's one of the complications, building the new stand around the old one so that we don't have a reduced capacity and nobody has to move. Well, nobody has to move until the final stage, when the old stand seating area is fully demolished and replaced by the lower tier of the new stand, although I thought they planned to do that in a summer.

The only issue I can see is whether existing main stand season ticket holders will get first refusal on the nearest equivalent seat in the new stand.
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It really depends on delays to the schedule. I would imagine they will have a contingency plan for all eventualities.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
Just in case there is a single living Palace supporter who somehow hasn't seen it, this shows the intended order of events...


There has been some talk of using concrete instead of steel since this video was released, but no suggestion that the basic plan would change.

Also, if the video is anything to go by the main stand demolition and new lower tier would seemingly have to happen in summer as the work would be undertaken from the pitch.
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The opposite in fact. It's cheaper.
 
Caterham said:
Maybe , when the time comes, the summer pitch side availability can be extended by playing the last 4 games of the season & the first 4 of the next season away ? (I think Liverpool did something similar)
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Ever the pessimist, playing the last four games of the season away may not be such a good idea in the event we are in a relegation scrap!
 
est1905 said:
I dont go along with that. West Ham are not much bigger than Palace and Championship teams such as Birmingham City, Norwich City, even Stoke City would see themselves as just as big as West Ham if they had the same TV income
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Sorry but they are much bigger and better supported than all of those clubs .
 
Adrift said:
The Main Stand is an embarrassing shytehole, the Whitehorse is inadequate, Homesdale is okay but if shyteholes had shyteholes it would be the Arthur.

I see no other choice than to start a rebuild with the main stand while we have borrowing power, it may be a long time before Palace have the same chance again if ever.

"Build it and they will come" Ray Kinsella(ish)
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Why was the bar near the gates closed off?
 
est1905 said:
In 1994 we'd found ourselves back in the second tier and had only been in the top division for 4 seasons. Everyone described Palace (along with Forest) as two established top flight clubs that are expected to bounce straight back up. After a slow start (I seem to remember it being a home win over Forest that got us going) we did indeed proceed to smash everyone in the division and went back up as champions. Crowds were almost sold out every game.
Thats after just 4 seasons in the top division. We have just completed our 13th!
Our gates will be very healthy if were went down. For the first season at least
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i think your memory is not great.
The season we went up as Champions 93/94 under Smith we often got crowds under 15k, half the capacity of Selhurst (as we still had the Holmesdale terrace). In March that year we played Charlton and got 14k, as an example. They weren't terrible in relation to the previous seasons as we often only got 15k against the non top 6 or London teams when in the top flight, as Noades used to moan.

The reason gates are usually healthy first season after relegation is due to season ticket sales - which are sometimes released before the previous season has ended. With Palace's now waiting list for a season ticket the first year will definitely be ok, the few years afterwards will be the challenge.

Stoke is the perfect example. 28k capacity which sold out every week in the Prem. Now often get low 20s
 
(EDIT) With other clubs planning to increase capacity it does make you wonder if Selhurst Park will ever compete in the long term.

The most seats we could get in the Whitehorse would 8.5k with a cantilever stand going back over the store and a rake so steep that you would need climbing equipment and that is assuming the evacuation times could be met. That would take us to around 41k. The corner could be filled in between the WHL and AW so that would add some more. Some might think that is enough.

The Arthur would not benefit from a steeper rake and another tier would block light to the houses behind.

So, the only options are to buy Sainsbury's out and or buy and demolish the housing behind the AW, or relocate to go bigger

That would cost a lot of money. So unless someone is prepared to take that on, we are stuck where we are.
 
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Hrolf The Ganger said:
The opposite in fact. It's cheaper.
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Ah yes, that's right.
Still, point is I can't see much reason to think that changing the materials will compromise the plan to retain the old main stand and build around it, rather than flatten it from the start.

That seems like quite a clever and complicated thing to do. Good, though. If they can actually do it.
 
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