Main Stand redevelopment thread

rikz said:
Its a third tier European competition, 90% of the clubs no one has heard of and would struggle in our league 1 and our squad was probably worth more than every opponent we faced combined. Its about as mickey mouse as you can get.
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Rubbish. Its a European trophy you make a lot of money from, the reward for winning it a place in the Europa League. Ask any of the 15 teams below the top 5 in the Prem if they'd like to win it I know what they'd say.
Its about as far away from being Micky Mouse as you can get. Only jealous fans like the Seaweed claim its a crap competition. They're attitude will change next season now they have a chance to win it!
 
rikz said:
For our club it was an amazing achievement, for a premier league club, its really nothing to shout about, you should be winning it. Its only been around a few years and us, West ham and chelsea u21s have already won it. Brighton will be faves next year and I'd be more shocked if they dont win it.
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Funny how you'd drop that in to validate your point when its completely untrue. Chelsea fielded a strong team in most rounds they played in
 
rikz said:
No they didn't, they had guiu playing upfront in most games and he probably wasn't even 18 yet
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the answer is that Chelsea utilised their big squad and did play a few youngsters e.g. George upfront, however, as they progressed the team got stronger each round and they played a full team in the final.

Can we get back to the Main Stand discussion now.

Now the 6 houses are being knocked down hopefully we shall see some progress this year. Let's just hope we don't get relegated once it's built as per Chelsea in the early 80s
 
palace99 said:
Now the 6 houses are being knocked down hopefully we shall see some progress this year. Let's just hope we don't get relegated once it's built as per Chelsea in the early 80s
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Surely this is the ghastly spectre that has delayed the project, at least to some degree? If we went down then we wouldn't need the stand or the executive facilities, and the whole plan for the stand to pay for itself would fall apart.

I've said it before, but when we made the planning application the playing squad had very little sell-on value, let alone potential to generate profit. Since then we have increasingly had assets of value in the team, and it must surely help Parish to sleep easier knowing that, if the worst was to happen, he could sell Wharton, Henderson, Lacroix, Sarr etc to pay for the stand, rather than see it become a terrible white elephant.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
Surely this is the ghastly spectre that has delayed the project, at least to some degree? If we went down then we wouldn't need the stand or the executive facilities, and the whole plan for the stand to pay for itself would fall apart.

I've said it before, but when we made the planning application the playing squad had very little sell-on value, let alone potential to generate profit. Since then we have increasingly had assets of value in the team, and it must surely help Parish to sleep easier knowing that, if the worst was to happen, he could sell Wharton, Henderson, Lacroix, Sarr etc to pay for the stand, rather than see it become a terrible white elephant.
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Yes, we would.
There are teams with better stadiums in the Championship. We have to compete with them if we are in the Championship or when they get to the Premier League.

There is no scenario where are ground is currently acceptable.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
Yes, we would.
There are teams with better stadiums in the Championship. We have to compete with them if we are in the Championship or when they get to the Premier League.

There is no scenario where are ground is currently acceptable.
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The question is not whether other Championship (or even League One) clubs would have better stadiums than ours. The question is whether, if we were in the Championship, we could sell enough seats and corporate boxes in the new stand to cover the payments for it.

This very knowledgeable looking source confirms what we all know: Palace do not get close to selling out even the existing capacity if in the Championship, and often the average attendance, even when we have a good team fighting for promotion, is thousands short of capacity.

Average attendances

Crystal Palace Supporters' Website
www.holmesdale.net

Hence the white elephant risk.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
The question is not whether other Championship (or even League One) clubs would have better stadiums than ours. The question is whether, if we were in the Championship, we could sell enough seats and corporate boxes in the new stand to cover the payments for it.

This very knowledgeable looking source confirms what we all know: Palace do not get close to selling out even the existing capacity if in the Championship, and often the average attendance, even when we have a good team fighting for promotion, is thousands short of capacity.

Average attendances

Crystal Palace Supporters' Website
www.holmesdale.net

Hence the white elephant risk.
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That was 14 years ago. The club has evolved.

We cannot stand still as a club. We did that for years and that is why we failed to cement a top level berth.
The money available for stadium development is not solely dependent on our league status. We have owners worth billions of dollars. We also have assets on the field.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
That was 14 years ago. The club has evolved.

We cannot stand still as a club. We did that for years and that is why we failed to cement a top level berth.
The money available for stadium development is not solely dependent on our league status. We have owners worth billions of dollars. We also have assets on the field.
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Which is meaningless if you haven’t got the turnover, as Newcastle have found out
 
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