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ASCPFC said:
This sounds like a good initiative:
www.gov.uk

Driving bans for those who refuse to repay benefit debts as new DWP powers come into force

People who have stopped receiving benefits but still refuse to repay money owed to the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) could be banned from driving under sweeping new powers that come into force today.
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Let's await the Guardian to explain how it is somehow racist. I give it a month or so.
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“Fraud against the public sector and unrecovered debt deny our vital frontline services of the funding they deserve.”

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It assists us to pay benefits to more undeserving people including a certain type!
 
ASCPFC said:
This sounds like a good initiative:
www.gov.uk

Driving bans for those who refuse to repay benefit debts as new DWP powers come into force

People who have stopped receiving benefits but still refuse to repay money owed to the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) could be banned from driving under sweeping new powers that come into force today.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

Let's await the Guardian to explain how it is somehow racist. I give it a month or so.
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I'm still waiting for Tony Blair to march yobs to the ATM like he promised.
 
Matov said:
Its actually a fair comparison although as has been astutely observed, conventional wisdom seemed to have it that she was a nailed on cert to win (which to be fair, she did in terms of the Tories still being the biggest part, albeit having to go into a coalition). Now happy to be corrected on this, but Labour has a much bigger majority than the Tories did at the time and I suspect that if Burnham did go for a snap GE with a rejoin Manifesto pledge, then Labour would probably lose seats but its also more than possible they would retain a fair working majority.

I would assume its either been gamed, or is being done so now, because it must be crystal clear that doing nothing probably does not save the day come three years time, so I guess it could be calculated that taking a hit now, which does not lose them a majority, is worth it compared to going the full term.
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Interesting times ahead
 
Badger11 said:
No doubt. It wouldn't surprise me if the media were hanging onto to stuff about him.

1. Let Burnham get rid of Starmer
2. Release dirt on Burnham that could have been done months ago.

I once worked with a guy who was a big Everton fan. His mate was a Sun journalist and claimed they had a story about an Evetron player being gay but they couldn't release it because the player had done nothing wrong e.g. cheating on spouse.

I don't know how true that story was by it rings true. We have all seen many times how public figures skeleton's come to life just at the right time (for the media).
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Explain why you regard a player being gay as having a skeleton in their cupboard and why the media, or us, have any right to know, or comment if they do.
 
silvertop said:
Talk about risky.

Time and demographics moves on. Rejoin currently polls at about 55%. Thing is, a chunk of that is young; and you simply cannot trust them to turn up at a GE. Meanwhile, those 45% still clinging to Leave (i.e. most of you) are, of course, older; and every blessed one of you turns up on polling day.

Also, the Rejoin vote is possibly more fractured than the Leave. The key could be the Tories. A political feather for every wind that blows, if they sense a large shift to rejoin, and they do not risk outright war with their base, they will quietly reboot as a Rejoin party; and everyone will have forgotten within an alarmingly short period that they ever stood for Leave (Orwell knew his stuff).

Unlikely. Unless Burnham plans for coalition, I can see a plan to stand in a GE on a Rejoin platform scuppered not by Reform but by the Greens and the Lib-Dems.
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This explains why. I doubt whether anyone who voted Remain will have changed their mind, whilst many who voted Leave will. Many doing so for the illusion of hope now dashed by the reality of experience. The hardliners won’t. Those prepared to accept the economic hit so long as free movement stopped etc etc.

Standing on a manifesto that undertook to negotiate an eventual reentry would be a vote winner for the many who, like me, regard Brexit as a self inflicted disaster and would welcome leadership that says so.

www.bbc.co.uk

Ten years on, Brexit's economic impact is becoming clearer

A decade ago, many economists argued the UK would sustain longer-term economic damage by leaving the EU. So what did happen?
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Wisbech Eagle said:
Explain why you regard a player being gay as having a skeleton in their cupboard and why the media, or us, have any right to know, or comment if they do.
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Well, first off I'd want to know what's a skeleton doing in their cupboard....was it some S&M gone wrong? Or was it looking for food? Was the owner of said skeleton a consensual participant in becoming a skeleton in this cupboard?...Was there some weird sexual stuff?...We can't ask the skeleton obviously.....but we can check to see if it has a smile on its face.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Well, first off I'd want to know what's a skeleton doing in their cupboard....was it some S&M gone wrong? Or was it looking for food? Was the owner of said skeleton a consensual participant in becoming a skeleton in this cupboard?...Was there some weird sexual stuff?...We can't ask the skeleton obviously.....but we can check to see if it has a smile on its face.I should have said this was back in the nintie
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