Two tiers final U turn....

Indeed. The elites have been stealing our money to feather their own nests, under the guise of Democracy, for generations.

then they wonder why people don't want to fight for Democracy, and they wonder why we have no armed forces. They've been rumbled.
 
My lefty neighbour is devastated and trying to blame everyone, the media (Tories and Reform of course) et al. Anyone but the Party.

I pointed out that this is purely an internal Labour Party issue and she should reserve her anger for the Labour MPs, she's not having it though, talk about one rose tinted glasses.

Sigh
More important would you 💁
 
Helpful.

For simplicity, in this context I'd say 'solutions' would be things that materially improve the living standards of an average person.
I don't think governments are very good at that at all. The average person improves his or her living standards by their own efforts and a lot of government impedes that.
 
I don't think governments are very good at that at all. The average person improves his or her living standards by their own efforts and a lot of government impedes that.

Recent British governments certainly haven’t been, but my point was specifically that our existing system is designed not to do it at all.
 
Recent British governments certainly haven’t been, but my point was specifically that our existing system is designed not to do it at all.
What sort of system would?
 
I think it’s a very British mentality, and probably speaks to how s*** we have it, that we find the concept of a government improving our lives so unbelievable.

Plenty of governments around the world manage it.
Which ones?
 
Which ones?

ChatGPT:

Some examples of recent government policies that have improved living standards in developed countries include Austria’s long-term investment in social housing, which has kept housing more affordable; Denmark’s “flexicurity” model, combining a flexible labour market with strong worker protections; Singapore’s large-scale public housing programme, which has delivered high rates of home ownership; Germany’s apprenticeship system, which has helped create skilled workers and reduce youth unemployment; the US Affordable Care Act, which expanded healthcare access; Canada’s subsidised childcare reforms, which reduced costs for families; Finland’s education reforms, which improved outcomes and social mobility; and Norway’s management of oil wealth through its sovereign wealth fund, which has supported public services and national prosperity. These examples show that effective government policy can raise living standards.
 
ChatGPT:

Some examples of recent government policies that have improved living standards in developed countries include Austria’s long-term investment in social housing, which has kept housing more affordable; Denmark’s “flexicurity” model, combining a flexible labour market with strong worker protections; Singapore’s large-scale public housing programme, which has delivered high rates of home ownership; Germany’s apprenticeship system, which has helped create skilled workers and reduce youth unemployment; the US Affordable Care Act, which expanded healthcare access; Canada’s subsidised childcare reforms, which reduced costs for families; Finland’s education reforms, which improved outcomes and social mobility; and Norway’s management of oil wealth through its sovereign wealth fund, which has supported public services and national prosperity. These examples show that effective government policy can raise living standards.
so would..
-ending the 2 child cap limit
-increasing labour laws to protect staff
-improving renters rights
-increasing the minimum wage
-funding breakfast school clubs

not have an impact on improving the quality of life for millions in the UK?
 
ChatGPT:

Some examples of recent government policies that have improved living standards in developed countries include Austria’s long-term investment in social housing, which has kept housing more affordable; Denmark’s “flexicurity” model, combining a flexible labour market with strong worker protections; Singapore’s large-scale public housing programme, which has delivered high rates of home ownership; Germany’s apprenticeship system, which has helped create skilled workers and reduce youth unemployment; the US Affordable Care Act, which expanded healthcare access; Canada’s subsidised childcare reforms, which reduced costs for families; Finland’s education reforms, which improved outcomes and social mobility; and Norway’s management of oil wealth through its sovereign wealth fund, which has supported public services and national prosperity. These examples show that effective government policy can raise living standards.
That's just a list if various policies of various governments that may or may not have improved the standard of living of their average people. You said our system was wrong, what system should it be?
For the Norway one, would you support us opening new oil wells is a similar manner, instead of doing the opposite in favour of windmills?
 
so would..
-ending the 2 child cap limit
-increasing labour laws to protect staff
-improving renters rights
-increasing the minimum wage
-funding breakfast school clubs

not have an impact on improving the quality of life for millions in the UK?

Sure, some of those certainly had positive impacts, but I’m not sure the scale is as significant as elsewhere.
 
That's just a list if various policies of various governments that may or may not have improved the standard of living of their average people. You said our system was wrong, what system should it be?
For the Norway one, would you support us opening new oil wells is a similar manner, instead of doing the opposite in favour of windmills?

No, it’s a list of policies which are generally considered very positive, based on measurable outcomes.

I think the demands of different nations vary significantly and so should the structure of their governments. I can’t build an entire political system for you on holmsedale.net (particularly someone who doesn’t answer a single question in reply) but PR would clearly be a vast improvement on what we have now.
 
so would..
-ending the 2 child cap limit
-increasing labour laws to protect staff
-improving renters rights
-increasing the minimum wage
-funding breakfast school clubs

not have an impact on improving the quality of life for millions in the UK?
None of those have improved my life.
How about:
- personal taxation levels
- heating allowance
- increase in business taxation
- inheritance tax increase
- family run business annihilation
- business costs

Do those not have an impact on reducing the quality of life for millions in the UK ?
 
No, it’s a list of policies which are generally considered very positive, based on measurable outcomes.

I think the demands of different nations vary significantly and so should the structure of their governments. I can’t build an entire political system for you on holmsedale.net (particularly someone who doesn’t answer a single question in reply) but PR would clearly be a vast improvement on what we have now.
I don't see how PR would change things much apart from allowing more extremists seats in parliament and endless coalitions governing weakly.
I'm happy to answer any questions within reason - where haven't I?
I note that you haven't answered the Norway question. You have made a number of posts about the issue of climate change so I presume you are against us developing our North Sea oil resources, yet you quote Norway's exploitation of their oil resources as a great benefit to ordinary people.
 
ChatGPT:

Some examples of recent government policies that have improved living standards in developed countries include Austria’s long-term investment in social housing, which has kept housing more affordable; Denmark’s “flexicurity” model, combining a flexible labour market with strong worker protections; Singapore’s large-scale public housing programme, which has delivered high rates of home ownership; Germany’s apprenticeship system, which has helped create skilled workers and reduce youth unemployment; the US Affordable Care Act, which expanded healthcare access; Canada’s subsidised childcare reforms, which reduced costs for families; Finland’s education reforms, which improved outcomes and social mobility; and Norway’s management of oil wealth through its sovereign wealth fund, which has supported public services and national prosperity. These examples show that effective government policy can raise living standards.
I was waiting for the UK one.
 

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