Grooming gangs

Rape Gang Inquiry Report:

- A baby was abused and had cigarettes stubbed out on it while the mother was forced to watch; the baby was then killed.
- Girls were set on fire.
- Girls were sent to “red rooms” to be tortured, some of them killed, some of it livestreamed.
- One girl was raped by a dog while men bet on whether it would vaginally or anally rape her.
- Girls were forced to have abortions with knitting needles.
- Glass bottles, keys, baseball bats, and other objects were forced inside them, some shattering.
- Girls were gang-raped by dozens of men at a time in “party houses.”
- Girls were whipped, hung upside down, suffocated, and urinated on.
- Girls as young as 5 or 6 were tied up and abused.
- Girls were locked in dog cages.
- Girls were branded with an “M” for Muhammad.
- Girls were threatened with being killed and fed to pigs.
- Girls were mocked for wearing a crucifix during the rapes.
 
The majority of sex abuse cases are from family members so naturally this means they are mainly white due to demographics.

Unless the victim speaks up it is very difficult for the authorities to do something about these cases.

The reason for the anger over the Grooming gang cases is that most of these could have been identified and action taken as members of the community, social workers, police and local politicians were aware of them.

I don't doubt that racism does play a role in public anger however people were also angry over Jimmy Saville and his chums at the BBC, countless children's homes scandals, Magdalene Laundry, schools, Scouts, children's sport clubs etc etc.

The anger is directed at the perpetrators but also the authorities who turned a blind eye to the abuse.

So I don't accept the argument that if Pakistanis weren't involved the public wouldn't care.
 
The majority of sex abuse cases are from family members so naturally this means they are mainly white due to demographics.

Unless the victim speaks up it is very difficult for the authorities to do something about these cases.

The reason for the anger over the Grooming gang cases is that most of these could have been identified and action taken as members of the community, social workers, police and local politicians were aware of them.

I don't doubt that racism does play a role in public anger however people were also angry over Jimmy Saville and his chums at the BBC, countless children's homes scandals, Magdalene Laundry, schools, Scouts, children's sport clubs etc etc.

The anger is directed at the perpetrators but also the authorities who turned a blind eye to the abuse.

So I don't accept the argument that if Pakistanis weren't involved the public wouldn't care.
Stop it badger. Talking sense again 🤣
 
The majority of sex abuse cases are from family members so naturally this means they are mainly white due to demographics.

Unless the victim speaks up it is very difficult for the authorities to do something about these cases.

The reason for the anger over the Grooming gang cases is that most of these could have been identified and action taken as members of the community, social workers, police and local politicians were aware of them.

I don't doubt that racism does play a role in public anger however people were also angry over Jimmy Saville and his chums at the BBC, countless children's homes scandals, Magdalene Laundry, schools, Scouts, children's sport clubs etc etc.

The anger is directed at the perpetrators but also the authorities who turned a blind eye to the abuse.

So I don't accept the argument that if Pakistanis weren't involved the public wouldn't care.
You're right Badger and there's also a general weariness with how opinions are both prescribed and proscribed. So many thoughts which are not officially approved are met with allegations,accusations and insults that finding any middle ground is very difficult.
 
We do fecking care and you are a fecking disgrace saying that.

Middle class Twerp.

It's the left in a nutshell.

Every accusation is only a projection of their own internal workings. This is why it comprises of women and weak men. Women have been weaponised politically. It's an effective tactic, it's half the population, then throw in weak men and it will tilt the balance.

The ideology is adopted as an identity in the absence of any internal or spiritual strength, including morality and accountability for one's self. Therefore there is no thought for the consequences of that which they calim to 'support', even the prevention of the horrific abuse of children, as the ideology is the identity and must be protected regardless of the consequences.

They assume everybody thinks like this, because they do. 'Queers for Palestine' is a stunning example. It's pure narcissism detached from the real world or anything remotely constituting logic. Importing weak men from failed societies who dogmatically cling to culture, religions and practices directly opposed to your own is so obviously perilous, but that doesn't even factor into their thinking.

They therefore consider any common sense or decency/morality to be the result of an opposing ideological dogma. The notion of critical thinking is an alien and unfathomable concept to them.

That's not say such individuals don't exist on the right, of course they do, however it's the 'left' which is comprised almost exclusively of said people.
 
It's the left in a nutshell.

Every accusation is only a projection of their own internal workings. This is why it comprises of women and weak men. Women have been weaponised politically. It's an effective tactic, it's half the population, then throw in weak men and it will tilt the balance.

The ideology is adopted as an identity in the absence of any internal or spiritual strength, including morality and accountability for one's self. Therefore there is no thought for the consequences of that which they calim to 'support', even the prevention of the horrific abuse of children, as the ideology is the identity and must be protected regardless of the consequences.

They assume everybody thinks like this, because they do. 'Queers for Palestine' is a stunning example. It's pure narcissism detached from the real world or anything remotely constituting logic. Importing weak men from failed societies who dogmatically cling to culture, religions and practices directly opposed to your own is so obviously perilous, but that doesn't even factor into their thinking.

They therefore consider any common sense or decency/morality to be the result of an opposing ideological dogma. The notion of critical thinking is an alien and unfathomable concept to them.

That's not say such individuals don't exist on the right, of course they do, however it's the 'left' which is comprised almost exclusively of said people.

Excellent post sir.

The left of the past would be dismayed with the modern progressive left.
 
Excellent post sir.

The left of the past would be dismayed with the modern progressive left.

Yeah they call it 'the left' but I disagree.

There's nothing political about it beyond the weaponisation of the spiritually unwell/weak.

I don't actually hate them, I pity them, but I do hate the nefarious forces that manipulate them to inflict the evil they do.
 
I am not sure viewing this through a left/right lens is particularly helpful at this stage.

It almost implies that turning a blind eye to torture is a valid political choice, which gives brainwashed simpletons a get out.

Besides, were the police who participated, leftists? Were the gangs leftists?
The only consistent way to define them is pure evil.
 
It's the left in a nutshell.

Every accusation is only a projection of their own internal workings. This is why it comprises of women and weak men. Women have been weaponised politically. It's an effective tactic, it's half the population, then throw in weak men and it will tilt the balance.

The ideology is adopted as an identity in the absence of any internal or spiritual strength, including morality and accountability for one's self. Therefore there is no thought for the consequences of that which they calim to 'support', even the prevention of the horrific abuse of children, as the ideology is the identity and must be protected regardless of the consequences.

They assume everybody thinks like this, because they do. 'Queers for Palestine' is a stunning example. It's pure narcissism detached from the real world or anything remotely constituting logic. Importing weak men from failed societies who dogmatically cling to culture, religions and practices directly opposed to your own is so obviously perilous, but that doesn't even factor into their thinking.

They therefore consider any common sense or decency/morality to be the result of an opposing ideological dogma. The notion of critical thinking is an alien and unfathomable concept to them.

That's not say such individuals don't exist on the right, of course they do, however it's the 'left' which is comprised almost exclusively of said people.

I think if you have to convince yourself that people with different political views to you are 'weak men', you are doing some serious projection of your own.
 
I think if you have to convince yourself that people with different political views to you are 'weak men', you are doing some serious projection of your own.


Anything can be badged as a 'political view' so to suggest that is to suggest that weak men do not exist.

I believe they do, and I believe you've just exposed yourself as one.

"If you throw an insult on the ground, its owner will pick it up".
 
Anything can be badged as a 'political view' so to suggest that is to suggest that weak men do not exist.

I believe they do, and I believe you've just exposed yourself as one.

"If you throw an insult on the ground, its owner will pick it up".

I think weak men exist, but I haven't convinced myself it's those who have different political opinions to me who must be weak - that would be wildly narcissistic and insecure.
 
I think if you have to convince yourself that people with different political views to you are 'weak men', you are doing some serious projection of your own.

It's not just people with different political views.

It's a specific political demographic whose views are complicit in enabling these grooming gangs to exist for decades because institutions were afraid of losing their jobs to racism claims.

Not only are those people weak morally, they are malicious.

The only ones who can be left off the hook are those who are misguided and whose political bubble is so restricted that they don't understand the evil that they do. I regard those as the minority.
 
I think weak men exist, but I haven't convinced myself it's those who have different political opinions to me who must be weak - that would be wildly narcissistic and insecure.

Again, I've quite clearly stated that I do not consider it 'political' beyond the fact that anything can be descirbed as such. So you're arguing against something or someone else here.

I accept I may not have articulated this perfectly in my original post. It's what is badged as 'the political left' however I do not consider it to be that.
 
Again, I've quite clearly stated that I do not consider it 'political' beyond the fact that anything can be descirbed as such. So you're arguing against something or someone else here.

I accept I may not have articulated this perfectly in my original post. It's what is badged as 'the political left' however I do not consider it to be that.

When over the target you get the most flak.
 
It's not just people with different political views.

It's a specific political demographic whose views are complicit in enabling these grooming gangs to exist for decades because institutions were afraid of losing their jobs to racism claims.

Not only are those people weak morally, they are malicious.

The only ones who can be left off the hook are those who are misguided and whose political bubble is so restricted that they don't understand the evil that they do. I regard those as the minority.

I think these people are just very weak 'Careerists'.

I have no doubt that if the current Zeitgeist were in a different but equally reprehensible direction, then they would go along with that too.

They are the same template of people who turned a blind eye and waved through concentration camps trains in Nazi Germany, later claiming they knew nothing about it.
 

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