Eurovision

Badger11 said:
I don't care about the Eurovison but I do care how much it costs the BBC. The beeb are very secretive (why?) over how much they contribute but conservative estimates put it at around £25m to EBU.

All so we can then be insulted by the rest of Europe.

The BBC either needs to demand reform of the finances or throw in the towel. It's simply not value for money.
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Europe does not hate us. They hate the fact that we are one of the great music nations who openly give no feck about this competition when the rest of the Continent deeply cares.

In the 1970s there was the Song for Europe where we saw the runners and riders months earlier. The winning song was released as a single and usually did OK across the whole of Europe. Come the Grand Final we did OK as the song was familiar and the door wide open.

Now we obviously don't care. The song is selected behind closed doors. If released it is done so with no fanfare and the world audience hears the song for the first time on the actual night.

If I were to guess I would say the BBC want to broadcast the show for £25m as it has the highest viewing figures to justify the cost; but in no way do we want to host it (££££££££££).

Btw is £25m an outlay with no revenue flowing the other way? The show has a world audience of about 200 million. Are you sure the BBC is not making a fortune?
 
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silvertop said:
Europe does not hate us. They hate the fact that we are one of the great music nations who openly give no feck about this competition when the rest of the Continent deeply cares.

In the 1970s there was the Song for Europe where we saw the runners and riders months earlier. The winning song was released as a single and usually did OK across the whole of Europe. Come the Grand Final we did OK as the song was familiar and the door wide open.

Now we obviously don't care. The song is selected behind closed doors. If released it is done so with no fanfare and the world audience hears the song for the first time on the actual night.

If I were to guess I would say the BBC want to broadcast the show for £25m as it has the highest viewing figures to justify the cost; but in no way do we want to host it (££££££££££).

Btw is £25m an outlay with no revenue flowing the other way? The show has a world audience of about 200 million. Are you sure the BBC is not making a fortune?
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I worked on the BBC's broadcast of Eurovision one year when it was hosted in another nation. A broadcaster can only afford to host it once, as it cripples them financially. The financial risk of winning it twice in a row would kill off most mainstream broadcasters in Europe, that's why countries put out a really crap act the year after winning.
 
puncheon_judy said:
I worked on the BBC's broadcast of Eurovision one year when it was hosted in another nation. A broadcaster can only afford to host it once, as it cripples them financially. The financial risk of winning it twice in a row would kill off most mainstream broadcasters in Europe, that's why countries put out a really crap act the year after winning.
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Ireland would be an example possibly? I was working in Vienna when they hosted it in 2015 and they plugged it everywhere.
 
silvertop said:
Europe does not hate us. They hate the fact that we are one of the great music nations who openly give no feck about this competition when the rest of the Continent deeply cares.

In the 1970s there was the Song for Europe where we saw the runners and riders months earlier. The winning song was released as a single and usually did OK across the whole of Europe. Come the Grand Final we did OK as the song was familiar and the door wide open.

Now we obviously don't care. The song is selected behind closed doors. If released it is done so with no fanfare and the world audience hears the song for the first time on the actual night.

If I were to guess I would say the BBC want to broadcast the show for £25m as it has the highest viewing figures to justify the cost; but in no way do we want to host it (££££££££££).

Btw is £25m an outlay with no revenue flowing the other way? The show has a world audience of about 200 million. Are you sure the BBC is not making a fortune?
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I'm not sure but I presume that the rights are held by the EBU so any revenue will go to them first. I have no idea if they then dole it out and if they do by how much.

If the BBC are coining it in then they are fools for not telling the public. Each year the media bring up the £25m costs which the BBC does not deny. I know contracts are confidential but they could point out that this figure is wrong or offset by revenues from the EBU as they don't I assume the £25m is near the mark.
 
Badger11 said:
I'm not sure but I presume that the rights are held by the EBU so any revenue will go to them first. I have no idea if they then dole it out and if they do by how much.

If the BBC are coining it in then they are fools for not telling the public. Each year the media bring up the £25m costs which the BBC does not deny. I know contracts are confidential but they could point out that this figure is wrong or offset by revenues from the EBU as they don't I assume the £25m is near the mark.
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I am not sure if there are many in this country (outside the gay community) who would care a less if we stopped being a core contributor and had to enter via the semi finals like everyone else.
 
Just political. Not a song contest. When it was a song contest it was still political and it's s***. If you want to watch that - knock yourself out. I liked it when I was a young child.
The UK should pull out and forget about it.
 
Used to be fun when we could get drunk and point and laugh at genuinely awful euro trash

What made it particularly amusing was the contributing nations genuinely thought their laughable offerings represented cultural high points from their country.

Now it is all too professional and expensively rolled out.

However, by doing so it has morphed from entertaining unintended comedy to lavish but dull soulless presentation without once being touched by quality.
 
Willo said:
Back in the fog of time I tuned into 'Eurovision' watching the likes of Kenneth McKellar and Sandie Shaw.
For several years it has definitely not been my cup of 'Lapsang Souchong'.
Absolutely ghastly. 👎 👎 👎
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I bet you had a crush on Katie Boyle as well back in the day 😍
 
Willo said:
Back in the fog of time I tuned into 'Eurovision' watching the likes of Kenneth McKellar and Sandie Shaw.
For several years it has definitely not been my cup of 'Lapsang Souchong'.
Absolutely ghastly. 👎 👎 👎
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Never been the same since Terry Wogan stopped presenting it on the Beeb.
Frankly think it now a glorified freak show - waste of time and money !
 
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