Next manager poll

[Linford]

If he does come, hopefully that's the reason, but there is an argument that Bournemouth's squad is better than ours. There is an increasingly strong possibility they could be playing Champion's League football next season, or at least Europa, so I would ask what it is that we are offering that they are not? We have a much bigger ground, and we're not in Bournemouth, which I suppose are two pluses.

However we are in Croydon, which is at least three minuses. 🙈

 

[Linford]

The idea that Woody Johnson might buy the whole club and pump money in for new signings would make perfect sense as an explanation if not for the fact that he can't. FFP. The club can only spend what it makes. The owners personal wealth is irrelevant.

Unless he has decided to ignore FFP and shoulder any consequences, in the hope that the growth outways the penalty, and results in a net positive.

It would be a gamble, but any investment is a gamble, and that’s probably the only way you can really grow a club past a certain glass ceiling these days.

 

[cryrst]

However we are in Croydon, which is at least three minuses. 🙈

I do not think he will live in Thornton heath though

 

[est1905]

Unless he has decided to ignore FFP and shoulder any consequences, in the hope that the growth outways the penalty, and results in a net positive.

It would be a gamble, but any investment is a gamble, and that’s probably the only way you can really grow a club past a certain glass ceiling these days.

Although I'm not a big enough geek to follow the subject closely according to Simon Jordan (who tbf is not always right) he has claime on many occasions that Palace are way way below the threshold for FFP (or whatever the trendy term for it is right now).
He said a while back when there were still question marks over Glasner's future that Palace could give him 2 or 3 quality players without needing to sell if they so wished and they'd still be well inside the financial rules. Now obviously our financial muscle is even stronger having reached the final of ECL. If we win it its a guaranteed campaign in the group phase of the EL which boosts our finances even more.
If the club wanted to go on a splurge it could be done without breaking any rules

 

[Willo]

Although I'm not a big enough geek to follow the subject closely according to Simon Jordan (who tbf is not always right) he has claime on many occasions that Palace are way way below the threshold for FFP (or whatever the trendy term for it is right now).
He said a while back when there were still question marks over Glasner's future that Palace could give him 2 or 3 quality players without needing to sell if they so wished and they'd still be well inside the financial rules. Now obviously our financial muscle is even stronger having reached the final of ECL. If we win it its a guaranteed campaign in the group phase of the EL which boosts our finances even more.
If the club wanted to go on a splurge it could be done without breaking any rules

SCR introduced from next season :

Premier League clubs approve new Squad Cost Ratio rules to replace PSR - but vote against a proposal that could have introduced a salary cap

Premier League clubs have approved a new alternative PSR, called Squad Cost Ratio (SCR); clubs will now be allowed to spend 85 per cent of their revenue, with these finances monitored each season; clubs voted against an anchoring system which many felt was effectively a salary cap

www.skysports.com

 

[doombear]

SCR introduced from next season :

Premier League clubs approve new Squad Cost Ratio rules to replace PSR - but vote against a proposal that could have introduced a salary cap

Premier League clubs have approved a new alternative PSR, called Squad Cost Ratio (SCR); clubs will now be allowed to spend 85 per cent of their revenue, with these finances monitored each season; clubs voted against an anchoring system which many felt was effectively a salary cap

www.skysports.com

For teams in European competition, I believe UEFA's SCR rules are stricter at 75% rather than 85%, so being in the Europa League will reduce our headroom.

 

[Willo]

For teams in European competition, I believe UEFA's SCR rules are stricter at 75% rather than 85%, so being in the Europa League will reduce our headroom.

I am under the impression that the 'Cap' for clubs competing in European competition is 70% but I could be 'Off radar' on this matter.

 

[Timtwowheels]

SCR introduced from next season :

Premier League clubs approve new Squad Cost Ratio rules to replace PSR - but vote against a proposal that could have introduced a salary cap

Premier League clubs have approved a new alternative PSR, called Squad Cost Ratio (SCR); clubs will now be allowed to spend 85 per cent of their revenue, with these finances monitored each season; clubs voted against an anchoring system which many felt was effectively a salary cap

www.skysports.com

You’re absolutely right that UEFA’s SCR rules are far stricter than the Premier League’s, and it does raise the question of whether things shift if English clubs keep dominating Europe. If enough of the big continental clubs start feeling disadvantaged, you can imagine the lobbying pressure building.

On the money side, winning the Conference League barely scratches the surface of a Premier League wage bill, so it’s hardly transformative. And yes, having a billionaire owner (Woody Johnson 43%) sounds great on paper, but as Newcastle have shown under PSR, even huge wealth doesn’t translate into freedom to spend. The rules bite harder than people realise.

What really skews things is the loophole territory. The biggest clubs can lean on creative accounting, asset revaluations, internal sales, and all the corporate machinery that smaller clubs simply don’t have. Brentford, Fulham, Palace — they can’t magic up a hotel sale to themselves or shift assets such as their Women's Team around to balance the books. It’s capitalism in football form: the more infrastructure you already have, the easier it is to “comply”.

It does feel like the system is trying to enforce parity while simultaneously rewarding those who already have the scale to game it Ie The Big Six /Euro Super League Breakaway Wanna Be's). Whether that eventually forces a rethink — especially if Europe starts pushing back — is going to be interesting to watch.

 

[Eagle Black.]

With Alonso on the verge of joining Chelsea, Carrick signing for Man utd, hopefully it means Iraola is coming to us.

 

[doombear]

I am under the impression that the 'Cap' for clubs competing in European competition is 70% but I could be 'Off radar' on this matter.

You are usually right on these matters. Perhaps, it used to be 75%. Either way, a European adventure would give less financial headroom.

 

[samprior]

With Alonso on the verge of joining Chelsea, Carrick signing for Man utd, hopefully it means Iraola is coming to us.

Unfortunately I think Slot will be gone by the end of the season and Iraola will end up at the bin dippers.

 

[doombear]

You’re absolutely right that UEFA’s SCR rules are far stricter than the Premier League’s, and it does raise the question of whether things shift if English clubs keep dominating Europe. If enough of the big continental clubs start feeling disadvantaged, you can imagine the lobbying pressure building.

On the money side, winning the Conference League barely scratches the surface of a Premier League wage bill, so it’s hardly transformative. And yes, having a billionaire owner (Woody Johnson 43%) sounds great on paper, but as Newcastle have shown under PSR, even huge wealth doesn’t translate into freedom to spend. The rules bite harder than people realise.

What really skews things is the loophole territory. The biggest clubs can lean on creative accounting, asset revaluations, internal sales, and all the corporate machinery that smaller clubs simply don’t have. Brentford, Fulham, Palace — they can’t magic up a hotel sale to themselves or shift assets such as their Women's Team around to balance the books. It’s capitalism in football form: the more infrastructure you already have, the easier it is to “comply”.

It does feel like the system is trying to enforce parity while simultaneously rewarding those who already have the scale to game it Ie The Big Six /Euro Super League Breakaway Wanna Be's). Whether that eventually forces a rethink — especially if Europe starts pushing back — is going to be interesting to watch.

I thought this kind of creative accounting has now gone as part of the new deals.

 

[Willo]

You are usually right on these matters. Perhaps, it used to be 75%. Either way, a European adventure would give less financial headroom.

On occasions I am over-burdened with fallibility.
I am no omniscient sage.

 

[Norbury Old Git]

Unfortunately I think Slot will be gone by the end of the season and Iraola will end up at the bin dippers.

He’s not a fool. That’s why he is talking to Palace. Going to the big clubs without European experience can ruin a career. Look at Thomas Frank and the effect going to Spurs has affected his progress. Iraola will not have the pressure of balancing League, Cup and European matches at Palace….well certainly not in the first year. If we win the Conference League then we are in with a big chance. We always have Alonso to fall back on. Javier not Xabi !!

 

[Timtwowheels]

With the poll - Answers do rather depend on whether you interpret this as Who Do You Want as next manager or, Who Do you Think Will Be next Manager.

ie "I hope that Ireola is our next manager" but, "I might think that we'll end up with Frank (Frank Frank that is, not Lampard)". Just glad that Rosenoir is not on that list 🤬 but concerned that someone has voted for Dyche, I'd rather Roy again than those two 😀

 

[Eagle Black.]

He’s not a fool. That’s why he is talking to Palace. Going to the big clubs without European experience can ruin a career. Look at Thomas Frank and the effect going to Spurs has affected his progress. Iraola will not have the pressure of balancing League, Cup and European matches at Palace….well certainly not in the first year. If we win the Conference League then we are in with a big chance. We always have Alonso to fall back on. Javier not Xabi !!

Steven Gerrard understands that Slot will be at Luverpool next sesson.

He said that on TNT few minutes ago.

 

[pssguy]

With Alonso on the verge of joining Chelsea, Carrick signing for Man utd, hopefully it means Iraola is coming to us.

He could still slot in at Liverpool

 

[Timtwowheels]

He could still slot in at Liverpool

🤣… Klopp 👏🏻, Klopp👏🏻

 

[Living In Hope]

Would be delighted if Iraola came to Palace but I can find no logical reason that he would agree to come here. And Taylor's Lovechild suggested that Croydon was a better place to live than Bournemouth... he normally talks a lot of sense so I'm wondering whether this is a joke ?

 

[Elphers40]

I do not think he will live in Thornton heath though

Oi! Some of the best people come from there Cryst! 😉