Glasner Out

CPFCSaturn said:
I mean he’s gone plenty far in management already, having won multiple trophies across different clubs and countries.

He’s been successful everywhere he has been.
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If you look at his managerial history, he’s generally been successful early on wherever he’s gone.

He comes in, lifts the place, gets everyone pulling together, creates momentum and belief, and usually delivers results quite quickly.

But equally, by seasons two to three, things do tend to unravel a bit once results dip and tensions with the board start creeping in. So in that respect, this does feel fairly typical his time here.

That said, I don’t think anyone can seriously criticise what he’s done for us overall. He’s given us the best period most Palace fans have experienced in their lifetime, and ultimately he’s delivered silverware. You can’t just dismiss a manager who’s done that.

Personally I’m ambivalent about him going - I don’t necessarily think he’s the sort of manager who builds a stable ten-year dynasty at a football club. He feels much more like an intense-cycle manager. Brilliant at changing the atmosphere and driving success, but maybe not someone who settles into a long-term institutional project without friction eventually appearing somewhere along the line.
 
Nutmegyeti said:
If you look at his managerial history, he’s generally been successful early on wherever he’s gone.

He comes in, lifts the place, gets everyone pulling together, creates momentum and belief, and usually delivers results quite quickly.

But equally, by seasons two to three, things do tend to unravel a bit once results dip and tensions with the board start creeping in. So in that respect, this does feel fairly typical his time here.

That said, I don’t think anyone can seriously criticise what he’s done for us overall. He’s given us the best period most Palace fans have experienced in their lifetime, and ultimately he’s delivered silverware. You can’t just dismiss a manager who’s done that.

Personally I’m ambivalent about him going - I don’t necessarily think he’s the sort of manager who builds a stable ten-year dynasty at a football club. He feels much more like an intense-cycle manager. Brilliant at changing the atmosphere and driving success, but maybe not someone who settles into a long-term institutional project without friction eventually appearing somewhere along the line.
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Kind of; certainly he's demanding and has a track record of strained relationships with the board he works for - but his last season at Wolfsburg they finished 4th and his final season with Frankfurt they finished 7th and reached the German cup final (although league form did tail off towards the end). His last season here looks likely to include a European final, at the least!

Neither of the German clubs have managed to hit the same heights since Glasner left, which I always think is very telling when it comes to managers.

Agree with you that he's never going to be a long-term project manager, but I think it's really hard to argue he hasn't been a major success everywhere he has been - in all 3 cases, the clubs have achieved peaks not seen for decades, if ever.
 
dreamwaverider said:
I’m not so sure. Nothing in football is kept hush hush. Nothing.
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Agreed. I think Glasner has a lot of self-belief. He is quite capable of leaving at the end of his contract without another job lined up (after all he won't be short of money). I suspect he's happy to bide his time with his family in Austria until the right offers come in.
 
Pre season starts in July, not long away.
Glasner is very methodical in his approach
He's been 'in play ' since October last year when he advised the club he was leaving.
No doubt he will have had approaches (a top manager compensation free is attractive) and his own people have no doubt been active sourcing opportunities
He has a trusted team of coaches who no doubt will follow him to his next club.
I would expect them all to know which country they will be plying their trade in
There are families, schooling and practical aspect to consider.
Thus I'd be amazed if Glasner was unaware of his next destination.
 
Nutmegyeti said:
If you look at his managerial history, he’s generally been successful early on wherever he’s gone.

He comes in, lifts the place, gets everyone pulling together, creates momentum and belief, and usually delivers results quite quickly.

But equally, by seasons two to three, things do tend to unravel a bit once results dip and tensions with the board start creeping in. So in that respect, this does feel fairly typical his time here.

That said, I don’t think anyone can seriously criticise what he’s done for us overall. He’s given us the best period most Palace fans have experienced in their lifetime, and ultimately he’s delivered silverware. You can’t just dismiss a manager who’s done that.

Personally I’m ambivalent about him going - I don’t necessarily think he’s the sort of manager who builds a stable ten-year dynasty at a football club. He feels much more like an intense-cycle manager. Brilliant at changing the atmosphere and driving success, but maybe not someone who settles into a long-term institutional project without friction eventually appearing somewhere along the line.
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Very few managers seem to last more than 2 years at a club, they appear to get a bit stale and either look for new horizons or are pushed out.
Glasner is no exception.
 
Jim_Cannon said:
Oh dear Lanzo. He’s nearly gone, enjoy what he has given us - 2 and maybe 3 trophies and some great memories

Looks like Iraola is in next. What do you think of him?
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Love him, 4-2-3-1 proper attacking football, not this sideways crap, if our bloc was any lower it would be behind Henderson.
 
NEILLO said:
If you are referring to the Bournemouth game, I was at the match.
The first half was atrocious, no getting away from that. But even then we were only losing to an own goal and one of the most ridiculous penalty awards I’ve seen .
I think you contradict yourself in saying he could have made changes but then later say “ write the game off “. He selected a team that was not performing but you have to give those same players a chance to rectify things - you can’t just give up on them at the first sign of problems .
The squad have struggled all season with matches following European games and up against an in form Bournemouth team it was always going to be tough.
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@NEILLO - I meant that I could have understood writing the game off and resting some players - and not making the changes at all

The bit I struggle with is being 0-2 down in the first half (regardless of the own goal and crazy pen, we were not playing well) and Glasner overtly gesturing and huffing and puffing, acting like a "fan", and sitting back in his chair - but HE is the one that can change it!!! - I wish I could post the specific clip I am referring to as it really annoyed me watching the game

I want to see him either encouraging the team that is out there or making changes

There are bits of Glasner that I love and would probably still bite his hand off if he had a change of heart and wanted to stay

But I still get frustrated at how late he leaves subs/makes changes sometimes
 
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