Another terror attack



In Golders Green this morning, there is still an air of anger and frustration that a second attack in the space of a few weeks has taken place here.

A Jewish man, who didn’t want to give his name, spoke to us close to the site of the second stabbing.

He said: "The UK government is not hospitable for the Jewish community. They say they are but they do nothing. I don’t feel safe walking down Golders Green high street where I’ve lived for years.

"This country is finished for Jews, people will leave to go to Israel. If my wife said she would move I would move today. I keep on begging her. In the last year, 80% of my friends have moved.

"Since the 7 October [attack on Israel] this country has gone mental. You only have to look at the pro-Palestinian rallies with over a million people gathering."

Judith, who saw the attacker yesterday and hid behind a fence, said she was devastated about the stabbings but wasn’t thinking of leaving.

She said: “I don't feel it's 1939, it's not pre-war, because the government are not promoting this. However, the government are only putting on sticky plasters: more police, very nice; more security, very nice.

"But systemically, what are they doing to stem this tide to make us the Britain that we used to be?

"What concerns me, as everybody has said, are those marches in central London that are allowed, that promote hate - but what alarms me even more are the British people who are there, because I feel they just don't know."

He's right.

But voting stats show that 70 percent of Jews vote left, which means that a majority of them dislike the right more than they dislike proper immigration controls that would keep out anti semitic middle eastern populations from significance in the UK.....either that or that 70 percent are thick, and I don't believe they are.

A lot of the Jewish left are responsible for voting for this madness.

You can't have your cake and eat it as they say.....Well, you can, but then you aren't removed from some element of responsibility for the consequences.....You can't finger point at others when you helped create the problem.

I support the 30 percent of Jews with their heads screwed on right......and I think they have been betrayed in Britain by a combination of the left/social liberals and a majority of their own left supporting demographic......We have Zack (birth name David Paulden) Polanski as a typical example of this.

All of the left's hand wringing...currently seen in the media...over attacks on Jews, needs to be seen within a context of them for decades supporting the enlargement of Islamic communities within the country with the full knowledge that they came and come with much higher proportions of anti Jewish sentiment.

People like me would have never let it happen.

That should be remembered when the left demonise us.....There is no part I or others played in supporting the immigration policies over decades that led to this.
 
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Bit of both - the Left are increasingly bonkers of course.
Ha, you're probably correct, although the cause is usually the dominant trigger with the lunacy the other essential requirement leading to the effect.

Btw, nutters come from both ends of the spectrum.

And to describe Jihadis as "left" (if that is what he is) is, perhaps, misleading. They are identitarian, so within one characteristic of the new left. But they are far from "progressive". And their linear view of domination through a narrow interpretation of Islam has far more in common with the "right" e.g. focussed ideologies based on race or nationality...

Think I'll leave that one to an Oxford Union debate.
 
Ha, you're probably correct, although the cause is usually the dominant trigger with the lunacy the other essential requirement leading to the effect.

Btw, nutters come from both ends of the spectrum.

And to describe Jihadis as "left" (if that is what he is) is, perhaps, misleading. They are identitarian, so within one characteristic of the new left. But they are far from "progressive". And their linear view of domination through a narrow interpretation of Islam has far more in common with the "right" e.g. focussed ideologies based on race or nationality...

Think I'll leave that one to an Oxford Union debate.

True, but the number of attacks committed by 'far right' supporters against Jews or other demographics is tiny compared to what we see on the far left or those that vote for left wing parties.....who all supported the immigration policies that allowed anti semitic communities to greatly enlarge.
 
As someone put it on talk radio this morning:

"our desire to show tolerance to everything has gone so far now that we have accepted tolerating intolerence".

Apologies if i haven't quoted this exactly. Basically the fear of offending some has allowed this anti-sematism to go unchecked for too long!!
 
Ha, you're probably correct, although the cause is usually the dominant trigger with the lunacy the other essential requirement leading to the effect.

Btw, nutters come from both ends of the spectrum.

And to describe Jihadis as "left" (if that is what he is) is, perhaps, misleading. They are identitarian, so within one characteristic of the new left. But they are far from "progressive". And their linear view of domination through a narrow interpretation of Islam has far more in common with the "right" e.g. focussed ideologies based on race or nationality...

Think I'll leave that one to an Oxford Union debate.
A strict religious tribalist sect, very similar to brainwashing. Nothing whatsoever to do with left right or centre.
 
So it’s the British Jewish community's own fault they are being attacked more and more for not condemning Israel 🤔.
Seems a very harsh , irrational and unsympathetic view to take to me .
Absolutely nothing to do with the far- lefts love affair with Palestine and it’s excessive weekly Marches , protests etc or that the UK’s negligent immigration decisions in recent years has led to foreign politics , Wars , Religious unrest being played out on the streets of Britain .
Not really what he said, but then he didn't grasp the right nettle. And that is because there are so many nettles to grasp.

Jews. Traumatised by the Holocaust and informed by Millenia of persecution, they fled to their Holy Land and created the state of Israel by force. No one was ever going to persecute them again. But they left the survivors forcefully displaced on their border...

Progressive west. Can see the right of Israel to exist and the rights of Palestinians to their land but cannot square that impossible circle so just hand wring from the sidelines.

Reactionary west. Jews all good; brown Muslims all bad. Nice and simple and easy to adopt in its bite sized certainty.

Muslims. Impossible to generalize with billions, but hard not to see that their sympathies are likely to be with their Muslim brothers and sisters; a propensity that will spill into violence with those radicalized at their extremeties.

There are undoubtedly others.

He who is able to form a certain and supportable view on this mess must be very content with their thoughts.

I can't. Every sensible thought creates an equally sensible counter.

The problem is this has now spilled over onto our streets and the streets of all other nations where there is both a Jewish and (usually much larger) Muslim population.

Saying this doesn't condone these horrible acts. It just explains them, like cloud formation or photosynthesis. The one was always going to cause the other.
 
I have a young man living in the neighbourhood who is a bit strange he mumbles away looks at his boots and doesn't fit the "norm" instinctively you think he is "odd" well I met his parents apparently he is a genius a professor who owns his own company and is by any measure doing very well indeed. For some reason we tend to not like anyone a little different and think the worst.
I think you’ve fallen into the same category of pre-judgement and probably thought the worst; you asked his parents about the guy, you didn’t approach the guy himself to ask about his wellbeing.
 
He's right.

But voting stats show that 70 percent of Jews vote left, which means that a majority of them dislike the right more than they dislike proper immigration controls that would keep out anti semitic middle eastern populations from significance in the UK.....either that or that 70 percent are thick, and I don't believe they are.

A lot of the Jewish left are responsible for voting for this madness.

You can't have your cake and eat it as they say.....Well, you can, but then you aren't removed from some element of responsibility for the consequences.....You can't finger point at others when you helped create the problem.

I support the 30 percent of Jews with their heads screwed on right......and I think they have been betrayed in Britain by a combination of the left/social liberals and a majority of their own left supporting demographic......We have Zack (birth name David Paulden) Polanski as a typical example of this.

All of the left's hand wringing...currently seen in the media...over attacks on Jews, needs to be seen within a context of them for decades supporting the enlargement of Islamic communities within the country with the full knowledge that they came and come with much higher proportions of anti Jewish sentiment.

People like me would have never let it happen.

That should be remembered when the left demonise us.....There is no part I or others played in supporting the immigration policies over decades that led to this.
Given their history, you can hardly blame Jews for not flocking to the populist right!

And while I am not going to get into trouble with you again for implicitly suggesting low intellect, it is empirically correct to say (he says treading with diplomatic care) that: 1 Jews punch well above their weight academically; and 2 those with higher "academics" have a propensity to voting "left".
 
Given their history, you can hardly blame Jews for not flocking to the populist right!

Yes I can, the right wing that defeated Hitler was more right wing than the 'populist right' today.

Also come on dude.....Does any Jew in Britain today think that the very people who defend them are secretly out to get them?

Only people who are far gone as to not really think realistically.....A small number I imagine.

No....perhaps some small percent of them really are thick enough to believe the fairy stories from the left or ignorant, but essentially left wing Jews voted to bring themselves here as they disliked the right more than they thought it would rebound on them.....They thought it would never get to that or effect them personally.

And while I am not going to get into trouble with you again for implicitly suggesting low intellect, it is empirically correct to say (he says treading with diplomatic care) that: 1 Jews punch well above their weight

Well, if you actually think I'm thick then I have no issue with you saying it, I was just pointing out that you'd done that.....unintentionally or not.

As for the Jewish point, I actually said in the post that I didn't believe most Jews were thick......You seem to have floated past that.....I stated the reason I thought the Jewish left had voted themselves here.....and they need to take their part of the responsibility for it.

academically; and 2 those with higher "academics" have a propensity to voting "left".

This has been debunked many times.

Ok if those with 'higher academics vote left, then how come academic institutions of the past were socially conservative?
How come that in many advanced countries today, like China and Russia, the academic institutions are full of highly intelligent people on the right? Not on the left.

No, the reason academics in the west is overwhelmingly left wing...well progressive... isn't to do with education and/or IQ.....It's a combination of gate keeping and persecution of the right within those spaces until they were practically all gone.....and of course, establishment cultural messaging as to what views they consider acceptable.

Essentially the social liberal dominance of the last fifty/sixty years, where the 'imagine all the people' John Lennon boomer types have held the reigns on power and where the culture went.....that hasn't happened in other parts of the world.

I was within the academic sector and I know all about the politics of it.....and I knew I had to keep my mouth shut, and I did......Not that I thought politics should be part of my subject anyway....or that teachers should indoctrinate students.

But my beliefs were from an older cloth.
 
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Given their history, you can hardly blame Jews for not flocking to the populist right!

And while I am not going to get into trouble with you again for implicitly suggesting low intellect, it is empirically correct to say (he says treading with diplomatic care) that: 1 Jews punch well above their weight academically; and 2 those with higher "academics" have a propensity to voting "left".

Jews in the US are very pro-Trump. And i would not be surprised if Marine Le Pen got a few votes from them - in France. And Geert Wilders too in the Netherlands. I dunno about Spain cos they persecuted most of their Jews out of the place in 1493.

The Spanish Jews went off to live in Morocco & the Ottoman Empire. Morocco has been pretty awful to them recently - so much so that many have emigrated off to Israel.

anyhoo...........another Terror attack ? well its been nearly 24 hours since the last one, so another one coming along ? any minute now ?
 
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Over 70% of Somalians in the Uk are on benefits, so the laws of probabilities etc
If someone opened a book on it I think it would be an odds on bet.
One things is for sure, he won’t be sent back to Somalia.

Be cheaper to put him on a sailing holiday off the east African coast
 
I have a young man living in the neighbourhood who is a bit strange he mumbles away looks at his boots and doesn't fit the "norm" instinctively you think he is "odd" well I met his parents apparently he is a genius a professor who owns his own company and is by any measure doing very well indeed. For some reason we tend to not like anyone a little different and think the worst.

Weird how such a successful man would go out and stab some Jews like that
 

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