Another terror attack

[georgenorman]

I have been busy today but heard about this on the news. Whilst anti semitism has always existed there is little doubt we are witnessing a spike. Which is distressing. Innocent people being harmed is something we all condemn. Whatever beliefs they hold.

Why is this though? Too many people seem to conflate being Jewish and being a supporter of the current government in Israel. They oppose the latter and then attack the former.

What can be done? Increased security is not only intrusive, it’s not enough.

It would help a lot if those Jewish people who aren’t Zionists and oppose the Netanyahu government were more vocal here.

Disgusting - but what we have come to expect from you.

 

[georgenorman]

The government's independent reviewer of terrorism and state threats legislation, Jonathan Hall KC, tells the BBC attacks on Jewish people in the UK are "the biggest national security emergency" since 2017 [BBC]
Yet the likes of the BBC and Wisbech have been telling us since at least 2017 that the biggest threat is from far-right white people (and unicorns).
However, I must say that the BBC does seem to be less biased lately, perhaps their new head is having an effect. Today their website carries a story that illustrates well the depths to which our society has fallen: 'We will kill you and burn your house': Council staff under attack from High Street gangs

 

[PalazioVecchio]

That's why I made it. We needed a home to track these attacks. You'll find this will run for many years unfortunately.

do all violent attacks, on our streets, get the same amount of publicity ? Without googling it, Can you remember the name of the Manchester Arena bomber ? neither can i.

Police and Crime Commissioner Andy Dunbobbin comments on Stephen Lawrence Day - Herald.Wales

YESTERDAY (April 22) marked Stephen Lawrence Day, a moment to reflect on progress made and the work still required to build a fairer society. To mark the

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[beak]

A cousin of Chemical Ali?

Both died the death.

 

[kevlee]

The arrested man is a British national born in Somalia.
He’s going nowhere after his has served his sentence other than back onto income support and housing benefit.

 

[beak]

The arrested man is a British national born in Somalia.
He’s going nowhere after his has served his sentence other than back onto income support and housing benefit.

I haven't read anything about his employment financial status or hotel status or anything like that are you just speculating, y'know Epsom style random guessing that tends to blow up in your face.

 

[kevlee]

I haven't read anything about his employmen,t financial status or hotel status or anything like that are you just speculating, y'know Epsom style random guessing that tends to blow up in your face.

Over 70% of Somalians in the Uk are on benefits, so the laws of probabilities etc
If someone opened a book on it I think it would be an odds on bet.
One things is for sure, he won’t be sent back to Somalia.

 

[beak]

Over 70% of Somalians in the Uk are on benefits, so the laws of probabilities etc
If someone opened a book on it I think it would be an odds on bet.
One things is for sure, he won’t be sent back to Somalia.

There lies the big mistake, another Epsom style fvck up things breakdown into two categories either you know or don't know speculation is as good as a lie and leads to a great deal of trouble as usual leaving other people to clear up the mess.

 

[georgenorman]

There lies the big mistake, another Epsom style fvck up things breakdown into two categories either you know or don't know speculation is as good as a lie and leads to a great deal of trouble as usual leaving other people to clear up the mess.

These outrages are the fruits of the policies that the likes of you preach, beak.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Met statement played the mental health card 🙄

Yes, the typical bollox from Rowley. No doubt Khan will have briefed him on what to say!!!

It’s amazing how they have commented on and know all about his mental health history but very little has been said by the police and authorities as to when and how this Somalia man entered the UK.

 

[beak]

I have a young man living in the neighbourhood who is a bit strange he mumbles away looks at his boots and doesn't fit the "norm" instinctively you think he is "odd" well I met his parents apparently he is a genius a professor who owns his own company and is by any measure doing very well indeed. For some reason we tend to not like anyone a little different and think the worst.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

These outrages are the fruits of the policies that the likes of you preach, beak.

Absolutely 100% right.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I haven't read anything about his employment financial status or hotel status or anything like that are you just speculating, y'know Epsom style random guessing that tends to blow up in your face.

If that's all that blows up it'll be a result.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

So it’s the British Jewish community's own fault they are being attacked more and more for not condemning Israel 🤔.
Seems a very harsh , irrational and unsympathetic view to take to me .
Absolutely nothing to do with the far- lefts love affair with Palestine and it’s excessive weekly Marches , protests etc or that the UK’s negligent immigration decisions in recent years has led to foreign politics , Wars , Religious unrest being played out on the streets of Britain .

Of course not! It’s not what I said but your response is typical of the attitude of the right over this issue.

I criticised those who conflate the entire Jewish community with the government in Israel and suggested those who oppose Netanyahu them, and his politics, could help the situation by being more vocal.

That’s no different to suggesting that the vast majority within the Muslim community who are as appalled by these types of incidents as anyone else could help by also being more vocal in their condemnation of them and pointing out they know the British Jewish aren’t controlling Israel.

We need to encourage good and sensible people to be brave, risk upsetting some and speak up. Even better if they did it together.

We will not solve these kind of fundamentalist issues by increasing divisions. They can only be solved, eventually, by bridging divides, finding compromises and establishing respect. I will never see that day. Nor, probably will you but our great, great grandchildren might and we can see a start being made.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

What a troll.

"Jews should've opposed Bibi when he reacted to Oct 7 and then the Muslims wouldn't hate them"

You're embarrassing

It’s you who is embarrassing by making sweeping, poorly informed statements of the kind that divides people and results in these kind of problems.

Many Jewish people, both in Israel and here, oppose Netanyahu.

Being more vocal won’t stop the extremists, but most Muslims aren’t extremists either.

We need to encourage all the good people among us, whatever their background, to speak up.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Of course not! It’s not what I said but your response is typical of the attitude of the right over this issue.

I criticised those who conflate the entire Jewish community with the government in Israel and suggested those who oppose Netanyahu them, and his politics, could help the situation by being more vocal.

That’s no different to suggesting that the vast majority within the Muslim community who are as appalled by these types of incidents as anyone else could help by also being more vocal in their condemnation of them and pointing out they know the British Jewish aren’t controlling Israel.

We need to encourage good and sensible people to be brave, risk upsetting some and speak up. Even better if they did it together.

We will not solve these kind of fundamentalist issues by increasing divisions. They can only be solved, eventually, by bridging divides, finding compromises and establishing respect. I will never see that day. Nor, probably will you but our great, great grandchildren might and we can see a start being made.

How did speaking up go in Iran? Still, only another 100 years to go apparently.

Date	30 December 2025 – present (3 months and 30 days)
Target	Protesters
Attack type	Massacres, mass murder, mass shooting, executions, summary executions, torture murders

 

[georgenorman]

We need to encourage good and sensible people to be brave, risk upsetting some and speak up. Even better if they did it together.

We will not solve these kind of fundamentalist issues by increasing divisions. They can only be solved, eventually, by bridging divides, finding compromises and establishing respect. I will never see that day. Nor, probably will you but our great, great grandchildren might and we can see a start being made.

At least you seem to be admitting that there are 'fundamental issues'.
Your previous stance was "we are being expanded and enhanced. There's more to enjoy now. So enjoy it"

 

[beak]

If that's all that blows up it'll be a result.

Did you have an especially good evening?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

The biggest problem is that this country is run by clueless, self serving morons and has been for many years. They expert a pat on the back by way of your vote, when they pay lip service to fixing the problems they created in the first place.

We have to make them pay. Voting Reform is the most practical way of doing that. We can worry about what comes after when they win the election. It's getting towards the last chance saloon for this country.

 

[Racehorse-80s]

Golders Green stabbing latest: Mother of Jewish victim says she's 'horrified'

The mother of Shloime Rand, 34, says she hopes her son will be home from hospital for Shabbat on Friday. The other victim has been named as Moshe Shine, 76.

www.bbc.co.uk

In Golders Green this morning, there is still an air of anger and frustration that a second attack in the space of a few weeks has taken place here.

A Jewish man, who didn’t want to give his name, spoke to us close to the site of the second stabbing.

He said: "The UK government is not hospitable for the Jewish community. They say they are but they do nothing. I don’t feel safe walking down Golders Green high street where I’ve lived for years.

"This country is finished for Jews, people will leave to go to Israel. If my wife said she would move I would move today. I keep on begging her. In the last year, 80% of my friends have moved.

"Since the 7 October [attack on Israel] this country has gone mental. You only have to look at the pro-Palestinian rallies with over a million people gathering."

Judith, who saw the attacker yesterday and hid behind a fence, said she was devastated about the stabbings but wasn’t thinking of leaving.

She said: “I don't feel it's 1939, it's not pre-war, because the government are not promoting this. However, the government are only putting on sticky plasters: more police, very nice; more security, very nice.

"But systemically, what are they doing to stem this tide to make us the Britain that we used to be?

"What concerns me, as everybody has said, are those marches in central London that are allowed, that promote hate - but what alarms me even more are the British people who are there, because I feel they just don't know."