What women really want.....?

[PalazioVecchio]

Im sure someone will soon post something on seahorses or arachnids whilst dismissing great ape behaviours

when the males have a harem, the females don't fight each other. Bovine, Ovine, Equine, Canine, Feline. Where monogamy rules, the females get sarkey with each other. Often leading to fisticuffs.

We have all seen the David Attenborough film with two male Lions tearing each other to pieces, meanwhile a female sits nearby.....she is the prize. And she casually licks her paws and even looks bored. The females mostly don't fight each other. Not on the Serengeti nor the trenches of Ukraine.

Helen of Troy did not bring a thousand rubber Dinghies of women to the beaches of the doomed City.

Chickflick novels love a love triangle. One female and two Alpha males. Or one Alpha male and two females - out for a posh lunch. Plus an invisible Beta male serving at the restaurant, to wash the dishes.

 

[Spindle]

It's cute that you base your dating techniques on great apes.

How's that going for you, by the way?

I don't date, I have a partner. I'm the best she thinks she can get, I know this because she's still with me.

I guess you're right though which is why the rich and famous blokes are always with mingers, it's the lack of options for them, poor buggers. In tribal times to top tier would have a pick of females but now, since equality legislation and awareness all the birds are interested in are nice average guys.

 

[Spindle]

when the males have a harem, the females don't fight each other. Bovine, Ovine, Equine, Canine, Feline. Where monogamy rules, the females get sarkey with each other. Often leading to fisticuffs.

We have all seen the David Attenborough film with two male Lions tearing each other to pieces, meanwhile a female sits nearby.....she is the prize. And she casually licks her paws and even looks bored. The females mostly don't fight each other. Not on the Serengeti nor the trenches of Ukraine.

Helen of Troy did not bring a thousand rubber Dinghies of women to the beaches of the doomed City.

Chickflick novels love a love triangle. One female and two Alpha males. Or one Alpha male and two females - out for a posh lunch. Plus an invisible Beta male serving at the restaurant, to wash the dishes.

I don't think she's the prize. The prize is the harem rights. He's the prize, a top male protector, no other males are allowed.

Apes are similar but require males, hence a pecking order.

 

[McAhuna]

I don't date, I have a partner. I'm the best she thinks she can get, I know this because she's still with me.

Lol - And they say romance is dead.

 

[McAhuna]

I guess you're right though which is why the rich and famous blokes are always with mingers, it's the lack of options for them, poor buggers. In tribal times to top tier would have a pick of females but now, since equality legislation and awareness all the birds are interested in are nice average guys.

Actually, there are numerous examples of top footballers staying with the same girl since High School days - Wayne Rooney, Declan Rice. Kind of disproving your point. By your rationale they should have 'upgraded' to supermodels once they were rich and famous.
But they didn't. Why? Perhaps they have souls or something.

Obviously, physical fitness and attractiveness is a big part of compatibility. But there is much more to it than that. To deny that is to deny what makes us human.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

I don't date, I have a partner. I'm the best she thinks she can get, I know this because she's still with me.

I guess you're right though which is why the rich and famous blokes are always with mingers, it's the lack of options for them, poor buggers. In tribal times to top tier would have a pick of females but now, since equality legislation and awareness all the birds are interested in are nice average guys.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming by 'best provider' you mean 'richest'.

In my experience, 'best' doesn't mean richest to most women - best can mean the most compassionate, empathetic, kind, funny etc. etc.

The idea that modern women chose partners based solely on their ability to provide is just demonstrably untrue - their are swathes of women who are the breadwinners, who support sick partners who can't work, who partner with artists or creatives who will never be rich, not to mention the rising % of women who are voluntarily single.

I'd argue the opposite of your suggestion is true; ability to provide is far less important to women in our modern world, where many women have no issue providing for themselves.

 

[Badger11]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming by 'best provider' you mean 'richest'.

In my experience, 'best' doesn't mean richest to most women - best can mean the most compassionate, empathetic, kind, funny etc. etc.

The idea that modern women chose partners based solely on their ability to provide is just demonstrably untrue - their are swathes of women who are the breadwinners, who support sick partners who can't work, who partner with artists or creatives who will never be rich, not to mention the rising % of women who are voluntarily single.

I'd argue the opposite of your suggestion is true; ability to provide is far less important to women in our modern world, where many women have no issue providing for themselves.

All true, unfortunately just like the Manosphere there is a Femosphere where swathes of pretentious young women encourage their female followers to see men as a golden ticket to a luxury life that they haven't worked for but deserve "because their worth it".

Oddly the MSM only seems only interested in the Manosphere. They are both toxic.

 

[Glazier#1]

Pedant alert. Both words fit as the verb

But not appropriate in terms of to 'choose'

Erroneous pedant assassin alert.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

All true, unfortunately just like the Manosphere there is a Femosphere where swathes of pretentious young women encourage their female followers to see men as a golden ticket to a luxury life that they haven't worked for but deserve "because their worth it".

Oddly the MSM only seems only interested in the Manosphere. They are both toxic.

Of course there are women who purely date for economic status, but my point is I don't think we need to present that as the norm, or pretend it's how most women operate.

 

[McAhuna]

All true, unfortunately just like the Manosphere there is a Femosphere where swathes of pretentious young women encourage their female followers to see men as a golden ticket to a luxury life that they haven't worked for but deserve "because their worth it".

Oddly the MSM only seems only interested in the Manosphere. They are both toxic.

Good observation. The Manosphere and Femoshere are two sides of the same coin.
Ironically they both hate each other.
But both have the same toxic values (grab what you can get and screw morality). They are made for each other.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

I don't date, I have a partner. I'm the best she thinks she can get, I know this because she's still with me.

i would say 'the rules of the game' vary greatly whether yis are in your twenties or your fifties. And whether yis did have kids together or not.

The male Mallard duck is besotted with the female after he has 'done' her. If he sees her coupling with another male, he scarpers. Fair enough. Whats good for the goose is good for the Mallard.

 

[McAhuna]

i would say 'the rules of the game' vary greatly whether yis are in your twenties or your fifties. And whether yis did have kids together or not.

And whether you are Human or an Orangutan.

At least, I like to think so.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Actually, there are numerous examples of top footballers staying with the same girl since High School days - Wayne Rooney, Declan Rice. Kind of disproving your point. By your rationale they should have 'upgraded' to supermodels once they were rich and famous.

Women end relationships far more often than men. When a fella is sailing at the top of World Football, all is rosy in the garden. When he has a career-ending injury, be afraid. Nearly all footballers get divorced after the playing days are over. But the wealth can create opportunities.
Paul Merson has 8 kids by 3 women. And lets not mention our own ( & arsenal's) Ian Wright.

Anyhoo..........What women really Want......? Certainly football champions are preferable to champion Badminton players

 

[Spindle]

Actually, there are numerous examples of top footballers staying with the same girl since High School days - Wayne Rooney, Declan Rice. Kind of disproving your point. By your rationale they should have 'upgraded' to supermodels once they were rich and famous.
But they didn't. Why? Perhaps they have souls or something.

Obviously, physical fitness and attractiveness is a big part of compatibility. But there is much more to it than that. To deny that is to deny what makes us human.

Great, you found a few outliers. You must be right again

 

[Spindle]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming by 'best provider' you mean 'richest'.

In my experience, 'best' doesn't mean richest to most women - best can mean the most compassionate, empathetic, kind, funny etc. etc.

The idea that modern women chose partners based solely on their ability to provide is just demonstrably untrue - their are swathes of women who are the breadwinners, who support sick partners who can't work, who partner with artists or creatives who will never be rich, not to mention the rising % of women who are voluntarily single.

I'd argue the opposite of your suggestion is true; ability to provide is far less important to women in our modern world, where many women have no issue providing for themselves.

I mean having their s*** together really, it's situational but women look at a mans future, men are interested in a woman's past - status matters.

Swathes? I thought there was a wage gap?

Nope. Men will support a woman who is providing less for a lot longer than the other way around. They also date up, women want a partner that they consider better than them. Men don't care about a woman's income, women do.

You should go to hoe_math on YouTube to learn a few behavioural lessons.

All of this is generally, the majority.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Swathes? I thought there was a wage gap?

Nope. Men will support a woman who is providing less for a lot longer than the other way around. They also date up, women want a partner that they consider better than them. Men don't care about a woman's income, women do.

You should go to hoe_math on YouTube to learn a few behavioural lessons.

Lots of women earn more than their partners, yes.

Saying 'nope' is not an argument, nor is just making unverifiable claims.

I think your last line basically highlights the difference in view - I don't think 'hoe math' on Youtube is much of a basis to form opinions on 50% of the population, but you seem to think it is.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

They also date up, women want a partner that they consider better than them.

Women will happily date a Tall loser - even if he was homeless and cannot speak English. And many women often wrinkle up their nose at a short millionaire.

But of course, millionaire men have many options - there are always some women who turn a blind eye to height. Ecclestone, Robert De Niro, Mick Jagger, all having babies when they are older than Pope John Paul II.

Bernie Ecclestone, 89, becomes a father for the fourth time

The Formula One bosses' wife Fabiana Flosi has given birth to a little boy named Ace, after the couple confirmed they were expecting a baby in April.

www.dailymail.com

Many women now want to have kids without all the bother of having the father hanging around....... And in The West, its viable financially too - maybe even in Thornton Heath.

Everybody wants a 'Viking' baby: the dark side of Denmark’s sperm donation industry

Denmark’s sperm industry exports 'Viking sperm' worldwide, but soaring demand and loose regulation were exposed after one donor fathered 197 children with a cancer-linked mutation

www.ynetnews.com

What women want............?

 

[Spindle]

Lots of women earn more than their partners, yes.

Saying 'nope' is not an argument, nor is just making unverifiable claims.

I think your last line basically highlights the difference in view - I don't think 'hoe math' on Youtube is much of a basis to form opinions on 50% of the population, but you seem to think it is.

Its boring that you will deride a point based on one suggestion rather than actual have a look, because it is quite funny and true. Sorry I didn't write my entire life story in order to give the suggestion some credibility.

I think you're a lefty soy boy tbh so expected plenty of man feminism from you.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Its boring that you will deride a point based on one suggestion rather than actual have a look, because it is quite funny and true. Sorry I didn't write my entire life story in order to give the suggestion some credibility.

I think you're a lefty soy boy tbh so expected plenty of man feminism from you.

I know you've completely outsourced your thinking capacity to your algorithm, as you seem happy to demonstrate with some incredibly dumb FB and Youtube links on here, but I'm never going to form my views based on that sort of loaded s***.

Call me what you want - I'm happily married, enjoy great relationships with all of the women in my life, and most importantly I haven't had to start inhaling incel culture to console myself for my failings, but we all have our vices.

 

[McAhuna]

Some on here sound scarred and cynical from their experiences with women.

I suspect there is a lot of manifesting going on. I mean, if you enjoy and recommend a show called Hoe-math then you are setting an expectation for how women are. You are also creating a filter whereby the women in your lives will be the ones who are content to be labelled as hoes, and will tolerate men with that mindset.
So ... surprise, surprise ....the women in your life then behave as hoes, because it is what is expected of them. You practically made it an expectation. This, in turn, reinforces and confirms your pre-existing prejudices, and so the cycle continues.

Break the spell. Ditch the misogyny and toxicity, treat people like human beings, recognise their individuality and be interested in it. I suspect outcomes might work much better for all concerned.

Or just rip into me for saying this, and carry on as you were, with the same inevitable outcomes. It makes no difference to me either way.