Pardew

As I understand it Alan Pardew is one of a number of minority shareholders in the Club. He has been known to help Parish with manager selection just as Mark Bright has helpsed with the loanees. It’s unlikely he is after the job and I don’t think SP would offer it to him anyway.
 
Pardew can do a managerial job.........Asda need a store manager in the Midlands. I would feel sorry for the shelf-stackers, they will be dealing with a ton of new public criticism.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
sacked ? bitter ? ....what ? after having lost a clatter of matches ?
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In fairness, I think Parish did later say that in retrospect sacking Pardew was perhaps a bit harsh.

As I recall, we had been on a very good run and then a very bad one, but were not in the relegation zone. Only after Pardew was replaced by Allardyce did we briefly slip into the bottom three. If I recall correctly, that was the only time it has happened since we got promoted, early days under Holloway and the farcical De Boer resign aside.

I felt Allardyce did an OK job but made far too much fuss about the state of the team and the confidence of the players when talking to the media, all to protect his own reputation if he couldn't right the ship, and to emphasise his own role if he could. I think some of that 'Big Sam performs another Miracle' narrative has cast undue shade on Pardew's reign. He perhaps took a little more risk and chased wins compared to other Palace managers, but I am not sure the points total would have been any worse for it in the end.
 
Was our league form that year not horrendous? We made it to the fa cup final but couldn't buy a win in the league after Christmas? Except for that puncheon goal against Norwich. Our league form I think continued into the new season?
 
I’m okay with the Pardew era (that being since Parish came in) He is one of the reasons our team has become a cup winning side and now in a European semi final. Most of the managers since Parish came in have built us up to the team we are today. Can we go any further, I’m not sure? I can’t see us ever being a premiership winning team with our resources but Pardew deserves credit for where we are now 🙂
 
TheBigToePunt said:
In fairness, I think Parish did later say that in retrospect sacking Pardew was perhaps a bit harsh.

As I recall, we had been on a very good run and then a very bad one, but were not in the relegation zone. Only after Pardew was replaced by Allardyce did we briefly slip into the bottom three. If I recall correctly, that was the only time it has happened since we got promoted, early days under Holloway and the farcical De Boer resign aside.

I felt Allardyce did an OK job but made far too much fuss about the state of the team and the confidence of the players when talking to the media, all to protect his own reputation if he couldn't right the ship, and to emphasise his own role if he could. I think some of that 'Big Sam performs another Miracle' narrative has cast undue shade on Pardew's reign. He perhaps took a little more risk and chased wins compared to other Palace managers, but I am not sure the points total would have been any worse for it in the end.
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You may well be right, but my recollection is of a team looking lost on the pitch and lacking any sort of confidence in themselves or their team mates. We were in freefall and slipping towards the bottom of the table when BFS came in. Had Pardew stayed then in my mind we were somewhat like Spurs this year without the same quality in playing staff: we were going down.

The Allardyce appointment was in itself a risk given his previous gig: the ill fated one game spell as England boss which clearly crushed him as you could see in post sacking interviews outside his house. It looked like he had lost his managerial mojo as the form under Pardew continued under him, maybe the lowlight being the 0-4 at home to Sunderland when someone from the crowd made the naive decision to confront Damien Delaney on the pitch.

So I think the fans were turning, the players were playing with fear, and BFS moping around was not helping initially. Not a great recipe for staying up: but then we hammered Arsenal 3-0 and suddenly everything seemed to click.
 
play a game of 'bv.llsh1t Bingo' with the link below.

- by mutual consent
- got unlucky

- didn't renew contract
- it was the fault of the fans/the dinner ladies/the parking attendants

- we nearly, we almost, we were the best of all the teams who failed to.....

Great managers get long tenures and make a go of it, and are bulletproof. Athletico Madrid with mr black suit & tie - Diego Simeone , Pep Guardiola, Luis Enrique at PSG...all gainfully employed and in demand.

Pardew is available for employment, for a reason. Dougie Freedman is the only boomerang i would welcome back to Selhurst.

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Alan Pardew - Wikipedia

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RubinsCube said:
You may well be right, but my recollection is of a team looking lost on the pitch and lacking any sort of confidence in themselves or their team mates. We were in freefall and slipping towards the bottom of the table when BFS came in. Had Pardew stayed then in my mind we were somewhat like Spurs this year without the same quality in playing staff: we were going down.

The Allardyce appointment was in itself a risk given his previous gig: the ill fated one game spell as England boss which clearly crushed him as you could see in post sacking interviews outside his house. It looked like he had lost his managerial mojo as the form under Pardew continued under him, maybe the lowlight being the 0-4 at home to Sunderland when someone from the crowd made the naive decision to confront Damien Delaney on the pitch.

So I think the fans were turning, the players were playing with fear, and BFS moping around was not helping initially. Not a great recipe for staying up: but then we hammered Arsenal 3-0 and suddenly everything seemed to click.
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From what I can recall (which is to say, I haven't done any research before running my mouth off, and don't intend to!) I felt at the time that the side were on a poor run but would probably go on a good one sooner or later, as that is what the side was like at the time (albeit that may be a reflection of Pardew's approach).

As you say, they continued to be fecking crap under Allardyce, and then got their fingers out and all was well. I just remember thinking that they would have done that anyway, especially if Pardew had been allowed to spend the money Allardyce was given that January.

Overall, I think we often give managers too much blame when a team underperforms, and too much credit when they sort themselves out. These are often just the natural fluctuations of a group of average players, and the best cure is to spend money on decent players to reinforce the team, regardless of who is in the dugout. I think those were the key factors, not the change in manager.

That said, many a manager would have made a total balls of it and made it all worse, when Allardyce did what he knew and got the required results, so fair enough.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
In fairness, I think Parish did later say that in retrospect sacking Pardew was perhaps a bit harsh.

As I recall, we had been on a very good run and then a very bad one, but were not in the relegation zone. Only after Pardew was replaced by Allardyce did we briefly slip into the bottom three. If I recall correctly, that was the only time it has happened since we got promoted, early days under Holloway and the farcical De Boer resign aside.

I felt Allardyce did an OK job but made far too much fuss about the state of the team and the confidence of the players when talking to the media, all to protect his own reputation if he couldn't right the ship, and to emphasise his own role if he could. I think some of that 'Big Sam performs another Miracle' narrative has cast undue shade on Pardew's reign. He perhaps took a little more risk and chased wins compared to other Palace managers, but I am not sure the points total would have been any worse for it in the end.
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At least it wasn't on his birthday
 
I've watched a fair bit of Pardew's Palace again recently and been quite surprised at how confident we were on the ball. If this side was around now and wearing Brighton shirts the media would be gushing over their football

Unfortunately when we didn't replace Jedi in 2016 we lost our balance and were then too open and easy to hit in transition. The Burnley away game we lost 3-2 was the perfect example of both our effective attacking football to get back into the game against a tough defensive side but we were caught up the pitch too often and couldn't really defend a set piece

I'd rather watch that than most of Royball to be honest. At least we were aspirational
 
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