Glasner Out

[SurreyEagle16]

With regard to the penultimate paragraph he was quite explicit what he wanted in terms of backing.
He gave three interviews on the subject and essentially said he wanted players brought in early in the windows to allow for proper assimilation in the squad and understanding of their teammates and Glasner's methods.
He also said he felt 'abandoned ' by the board because they had failed to deliver on their promises.

As far as I'm aware the club have not any comment on his allegations.

Furthermore, Glasner has also made contradictory statements at times suggesting he was content with the squad.

In other words he's a typical manager whose utterances are often determined after the latest result and the emotions associated with that result.

Much of this is water under the bridge now.
It does mean that there are lots of question marks over the summer though in terms of a new manager and incoming and outgoing players.

I agree with what you say here about OG just being a typical manager.

My point was more i think he got as much as any manager could expect from a club like Palace - rather than him not being clear about his demands.

We have spent money - despite what people say. And Parish will not prostitute the club for the whim of a manager. He has made some good deals, some bad ones - but we will always have a club to support tomorrow with him calling the shots.

And while i'm sure OG would rather not have lost Eze and Guhei - the well documented rumblings of those deals were a result of market forces - City and Arsenal made bids when then did. The club had the same choice everyone else has in such times - sell, or keep an unhappy player. In my experience, the former is always the lesser of two evils

So in summary - i know why OG says he is unhappy - but i think he is naïve to have expected anything else

 

[Inquisitive Aquila]

I agree with what you say here about OG just being a typical manager.

My point was more i think he got as much as any manager could expect from a club like Palace - rather than him not being clear about his demands.

We have spent money - despite what people say. And Parish will not prostitute the club for the whim of a manager. He has made some good deals, some bad ones - but we will always have a club to support tomorrow with him calling the shots.

And while i'm sure OG would rather not have lost Eze and Guhei - the well documented rumblings of those deals were a result of market forces - City and Arsenal made bids when then did. The club had the same choice everyone else has in such times - sell, or keep an unhappy player. In my experience, the former is always the lesser of two evils

So in summary - i know why OG says he is unhappy - but i think he is naïve to have expected anything else

My concern with those departures is at what point did Parish inform OG ? With Guehi we had apparently been negotiating with Manchester City for several days before telling OG, why? Surely you tell the manager straight away that a player may not be available any more.

 

[est1905]

If we revisit it and we’ve got £100m for Wharton , then I’d think we’ve been overpaid, but happy, so don’t really see what your point would be?

The point would be that you'd be very wrong. You said there was no way we would get close to receiving £100m for Wharton. Now you are back tracking by saying you'd be happy if we did because we'd be overpaid. Of course we'd be overpaid. He's our player and we can quote what we want for him or he stays put. But YOU said we'd never get £100m for him. So either you're deliberately not seeing the point or you're not as intelligent as I gave you credit for. Apologies for assuming you were a bit brighter.

 

[Inquisitive Aquila]

I don't think anyone pressed the alarm button.. There was always a good chance that once 'his' players were back, the fixture list eased we would come out the other end. And we all know memories are only as long as the bad results. We look to have stopped the rot, so everybody seems rosy with OG again.

I still have a problem with how he conducted himself over the winter; the disrespect he showed the club, it's fans and it's players (especially the youth) together with his desire to prove a point rather than win matches was disgraceful and I will still be glad to see him gone in the summer. It's just such a shame.

What it did show is the ability of SP to choose the right option (for the club) and put faith in the odious self serving little toddler, and decide he was most likely the best option 'til the end of the season despite all of this. It would have been very easy for him to give in to the pressure to sack OG and find a replacement, at what was a crucial time for the club.

I wonder if OG was kept in place to take the criticism and deflect attention, a bit like UEFA (blameworthy to an extent) have been used over being in the Conference league.

 

[SurreyEagle16]

My concern with those departures is at what point did Parish inform OG ? With Guehi we had apparently been negotiating with Manchester City for several days before telling OG, why? Surely you tell the manager straight away that a player may not be available any more.

Fair question - but i dont think we will ever know.

If SP never spoke to OG - then that is tragic management.
Maybe im an idealist - but i cant see that happening...OG himself has always said him and SP speak every day

 

[Casual]

I think that I said that £100 must be ‘fantasy land’ not that we’d never get anywhere near £100 million for him, but maybe wrong.
Anyway he played well on Thursday, so that’s good.
Why would you give me credit for being intelligent? We’ve never spoken before.
We are both the same , a couple of wallys giving our opinions on how well a fella in his twenties kicks a football about.

The point would be that

you'd be very wrong. You said there

was no way we would get close to receiving £100m for Wharton. Now you are back tracking by saying you'd be happy if we did because we'd be overpaid. Of course we'd be overpaid. He's our player and we can quote what we want for him or he stays put. But YOU said we'd never get £100m

for him. So either you're deliberately not seeing the point or you're not as

intelligent as I gave you credit for. Apologies for assuming you were a bit brighter.

 

[cryrst]

The point would be that you'd be very wrong. You said there was no way we would get close to receiving £100m for Wharton. Now you are back tracking by saying you'd be happy if we did because we'd be overpaid. Of course we'd be overpaid. He's our player and we can quote what we want for him or he stays put. But YOU said we'd never get £100m for him. So either you're deliberately not seeing the point or you're not as intelligent as I gave you credit for. Apologies for assuming you were a bit brighter.

You two need to get a room 😂

 

[BromleyMonkey]

You two need to get a room 😂

They’re probably married 🤣

 

[Casual]

Est1905 is a very strange person. Im happy to have an argument with someone, but this isn’t one.
I don't recognise the user name, so not sure if they are usually a wally , might be their time of the month?? 🤣

You two need to get a room 😂

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Probably a largely redundant thread now.
However, we are all at a point of reflection as to how the season has gone, aside from potentially winning a European trophy.
If you look at Spurs and the sacking of their manager, it hasn't had a positive influence on results. I feel really very pleased that the Board and Glasner were able to work their way through this season. Too many people running football clubs might have been inclined to pull the trigger.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Lanzo nowhere to be seen since we started winning again... he must be gutted 🤣

 

[McAhuna]

Probably a largely redundant thread now.
However, we are all at a point of reflection as to how the season has gone, aside from potentially winning a European trophy.
If you look at Spurs and the sacking of their manager, it hasn't had a positive influence on results. I feel really very pleased that the Board and Glasner were able to work their way through this season. Too many people running football clubs might have been inclined to pull the trigger.

12th, a European trophy and Europa league qualification would count as our 2nd best ever season.
We should remind ourselves who was manager in our 1st most successful season

 

[PatrickA]

Probably a largely redundant thread now.
However, we are all at a point of reflection as to how the season has gone, aside from potentially winning a European trophy.
If you look at Spurs and the sacking of their manager, it hasn't had a positive influence on results. I feel really very pleased that the Board and Glasner were able to work their way through this season. Too many people running football clubs might have been inclined to pull the trigger.

You raise some good points.
I was looking at Leicester this weekend, in serious danger of relegation to Division One .
It doesn't seem that long ago that they won the Premier League and the FA Cup and had a number of wonderful players.
It shows how things can go badly wrong.
They weren't able to replace their players, had their own tragedy and subsequently have been poorly managed.

Parish has provided continuity and stability which is quite unusual in the craziness of the Premier League.
It will be another test this summer.
We've lost Olise, Eze and Guehi and will lose Glasner and perhaps one or two others in the summer.
I hope Parish's run of shrewd management ( and perhaps some good fortune) continues.

 

[Willo]

Lanzo nowhere to be seen since we started winning again... he must be gutted 🤣

Lanzo has been consistent in his messaging apropos Glasner, gummed to his position akin to a limpet on a rock. No U-Turns or a dilution of his opinion.

 

[palace99]

With regard to the penultimate paragraph he was quite explicit what he wanted in terms of backing.
He gave three interviews on the subject and essentially said he wanted players brought in early in the windows to allow for proper assimilation in the squad and understanding of their teammates and Glasner's methods.
He also said he felt 'abandoned ' by the board because they had failed to deliver on their promises.

As far as I'm aware the club have not any comment on his allegations.

Furthermore, Glasner has also made contradictory statements at times suggesting he was content with the squad.

In other words he's a typical manager whose utterances are often determined after the latest result and the emotions associated with that result.

Much of this is water under the bridge now.
It does mean that there are lots of question marks over the summer though in terms of a new manager and incoming and outgoing players.

in terms of this, i do agree it helps to get players in early, but it isn't always possible, and that's life. He is an experienced manager so knows how these things work.

However, in 2024 Kamada was brought in early and had a full pre-season but it made little difference. Similarly, Johnson was clearly a panic buy, partly as OG repeatedly stated he wanted players early in the Jan window. We bought an expensive one early, and he has failed to be integrated in any way.

I don't see him questioning himself at his inability to get the best out of players he has had for some time.

I have more sympathy for players like Sarr who took 3 or 4 months to adapt to OG's style.

 

[madcap_v2]

12th, a European trophy and Europa league qualification would count as our 2nd best ever season.
We should remind ourselves who was manager in our 1st most successful season

+ we've won a cup already this season

 

[est1905]

Est1905 is a very strange person. Im happy to have an argument with someone, but this isn’t one.
I don't recognise the user name, so not sure if they are usually a wally , might be their time of the month?? 🤣

Is that all you got on the insult stakes. You cant even spell properly half the time my intellectually challenged student. I know how frustrated you are and you have to resort to insults and foul language but that just makes you look more of a desperado. Sorry, a Casual desperado 🤣 🤣

 

[BromleyMonkey]

+ we've won a cup already this season

True, I think sometimes in our heads we do attach the charity shield win on the end of LAST season as it was a result of winning the fa cup

 

[Steve Coops]

I wonder if OG regrets saying his not signing a new contract so early in the season as we could be back in Europe next year the board to be fair have invested and brought new faces in

 

[doombear]

Keep it going lads and lasses, we'll soon hit 200 pages