Labour Party politics

[steeleye20]

The doctors had a good pay rise and a decent offer this year, Streeting and Starmer are looking like the good guys and the doctors are looking daft for not accepting bumper money.

If possible chuck them out they have been taking the piss for too long.

😎

 

[beak]

Bodkin Adams certainly did, he made more than one killing, quite a few!

Got away with them too.

🙂

BMA interfered.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Another day, another change.

Labour’s Islamophobia ban spells the death of English liberty

The bigots who hounded the Batley Grammar teacher into hiding have been rewarded with a blasphemy law.

www.spiked-online.com

 

[cryrst]

Another day, another change.

Labour’s Islamophobia ban spells the death of English liberty

The bigots who hounded the Batley Grammar teacher into hiding have been rewarded with a blasphemy law.

www.spiked-online.com

Well I would remember section 29 of the public order act as that can be the go to if plod pull you up for saying the wrong thing, I think 🤔

 

[cryrst]

22,000 students told to pay back 'mis-sold' maintenance loans

Those affected have been told their courses were never eligible for maintenance or childcare loans

www.bbc.co.uk

I wonder if you dig deep it could be some of these ‘students’ either lied, couldn’t understand the forms or got someone else to fill them out.
Alternatively they fitted a DEI mould and hmg suddenly realised they were going to get found out so held their hands up 💁

 

[Badger11]

22,000 students told to pay back 'mis-sold' maintenance loans

Those affected have been told their courses were never eligible for maintenance or childcare loans

www.bbc.co.uk

I wonder if you dig deep it could be some of these ‘students’ either lied, couldn’t understand the forms or got someone else to fill them out.
Alternatively they fitted a DEI mould and hmg suddenly realised they were going to get found out so held their hands up 💁

There have been reports of widespread abuse of the system. I think this is more about fraud than anything else.

I bet we don't get out money back.

 

[Spiderman]

There have been reports of widespread abuse of the system. I think this is more about fraud than anything else.

I bet we don't get out money back.

Totally agree

 

[beak]

There have been reports of widespread abuse of the system. I think this is more about fraud than anything else.

I bet we don't get out money back.

Why oh why is this under Labour Party Politics the student loan fiasco was introduced in 1990 and after some tinkering it has failed those involved. i have always vigorously persuaded my son to avoid debt of all kinds,the only sensible debt would to my mind be a mortgage.

 

[chris123]

There have been reports of widespread abuse of the system. I think this is more about fraud than anything else.

I bet we don't get out money back.

Then the universities/colleges should be liable.

 

[Badger11]

Then the universities/colleges should be liable.

That is part of the fraud. We are not talking about Oxford or Cambridge more like the University of Camberwick Green.

As usual it's the government and civil service that has buggered this up.* There are some genuine claimants mixed up in this but recently I saw article which said thousands of Romanians were getting money from made up colleges and degrees

Any time the government (any) hands out money the crooks are waiting and are far more sophisticated than the authorities.

I remember when the Tories announced that they would provide support for businesses, during COVID, straight away I and others on here said "here comes the fraud". Of course the Sage of Truro told us it couldn't possibly happen well we know how that ended.

 

[silvertop]

That is part of the fraud. We are not talking about Oxford or Cambridge more like the University of Camberwick Green.

As usual it's the government and civil service that has buggered this up.* There are some genuine claimants mixed up in this but recently I saw article which said thousands of Romanians were getting money from made up colleges and degrees

Any time the government (any) hands out money the crooks are waiting and are far more sophisticated than the authorities.

I remember when the Tories announced that they would provide support for businesses, during COVID, straight away I and others on here said "here comes the fraud". Of course the Sage of Truro told us it couldn't possibly happen well we know how that ended.

You are of course correct.

However, that looks at the picture from the failings not the benefits.

Also, human nature combined with the nature of public service? There will always be those exploiting any release of public money to the great unwashed; and insufficient resources and skills in the public service to completely prevent it.

Criticism and accountability is critical to inform reform, but success should be measured in % that reaches target.

 

[chris123]

You are of course correct.

However, that looks at the picture from the failings not the benefits.

Also, human nature combined with the nature of public service? There will always be those exploiting any release of public money to the great unwashed; and insufficient resources and skills in the public service to completely prevent it.

Criticism and accountability is critical to inform reform, but success should be measured in % that reaches target.

I can't remember the details unfortunately, but I seem to remember a similar situation where foreign students where being placed on foundation courses to get around a visa restriction?

 

[georgenorman]

I can't remember the details unfortunately, but I seem to remember a similar situation where foreign students where being placed on foundation courses to get around a visa restriction?

As with most things these days, it is all more or less a racket.