War in the Middle East


Anyone who blanket considers Israel a friend of the west just doesn't take notice or worse agrees with the kind of thing in the video.....some of them deny it but their actions suggest otherwise.

I don't think there is a real ally in the middle east.....there are decent people everywhere, but they all have self interests and none of them are Britain's business.

My position is that I'm friends with those who stand with the west remaining European, which is its native source. We know that there are lots of Jewish organisations who want the opposite of that.

On our side are Jews like Mike Benz and others who oppose this evil.

When you look how ordinary Jews vote in the west, it isn't good, it's 70/30 to the left....but that changes within Israel itself...I think that might be changing in Britain but historically those are the basic numbers.

Thirty percent of those guys are my brothers, a lot of the others are my enemies.
 
Literally had that for most the last couple of decades and they can’t run a bath.
You think the Tories were right wing?

You clearly weren’t paying attention.
 
Someone I associate with (in real life) is still convinced the conflicts unfolding in the Gulf are a timely cover for more Epstein disclosures. Even in my wildest conspiracy fantasies, I still think that scenario might be a tad excessive.
But, you never know 😀
 
Someone I associate with (in real life) is still convinced the conflicts unfolding in the Gulf are a timely cover for more Epstein disclosures. Even in my wildest conspiracy fantasies, I still think that scenario might be a tad excessive.
But, you never know 😀

At the end of the day there has to be a majority or Republicans willing to vote with the Democrats in Congress for anything else to be released....that was already done and the Justice department just refused to release half of it and heavily redacted what was released.

There are already legal cases that will take years over what was already released and not released, the timing and coverage ete.

The war with Iran wasn't about Epstein.....that's not going away.

But outside of leaks (and that requires certain material having not been deleted and require someone with decency having access (which I doubt is the case)).....I don't know what Trump and the rest of the establishment have to fear.
 
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You think the Tories were right wing?

You clearly weren’t paying attention.
It was you not paying attention!

The Tories have always been a broad church of those on the hard right and those on the centre right, with both wings having different visions and locked in constant disputes. The very hard right has drifted off to Reform so they ought now be dominated by the centre right. They still seem frozen by fear of Farage though and determined to imitate Reform rather than establish clear differences. Which makes no sense on any level.
 
At the end of the day there has to be a majority or Republicans willing to vote with the Democrats in Congress for anything else to be released....that was already done and the Justice department just refused to release half of it and heavily redacted what was released.

There are already legal cases that will take years over what was already released and not released, the timing and coverage ete.

The war with Iran wasn't about Epstein.....that's not going away.

But outside of leaks (and that require certain material having not been deleted and require someone with decency having access (which I doubt is the case)).....I don't know what Trump and the rest of the establishment have to fear.
Trump in particular has a lot to fear, and this war is indeed an effective way to avoid it.

Whilst things remain unseen, or redacted, suspicion and rumour are the only commodities being traded. The thought being if there is nothing to find, why hide it?

Taking the Epstein story out of the headlines and replaced by something that was intended to present Trump as a wartime hero to rival Roosevelt was intended to reverse his declining reputation. It’s actually accelerated it because it’s so inept that every side now condemns it.

Someone, somewhere has got something on Trump. It’s the only way some of his behaviour makes any sense. When the time comes that whoever that is sees more from cutting the ties and releasing it his time will be over. Unless, as some fear, he really does try to suspend the Constitution.
 
Trump in particular has a lot to fear, and this war is indeed an effective way to avoid it.

I think he has things to fear, but I think the Iran war was going to happen regardless.

Whilst things remain unseen, or redacted, suspicion and rumour are the only commodities being traded. The thought being if there is nothing to find, why hide it?

Agreed.

Taking the Epstein story out of the headlines and replaced by something that was intended to present Trump as a wartime hero to rival Roosevelt was intended to reverse his declining reputation. It’s actually accelerated it because it’s so inept that every side now condemns it.

Someone, somewhere has got something on Trump. It’s the only way some of his behaviour makes any sense. When the time comes that whoever that is sees more from cutting the ties and releasing it his time will be over. Unless, as some fear, he really does try to suspend the Constitution.

I don't think Epstein is going away.
It's going to hang over Trump and indeed, the Justice department from here on I think.

Because, while we all have suspicions as to why they are prepared to move heaven and earth to keep it secret.....they have obviously determined that it's more important than everything else.

If there's justice these people need to go....from the highest to the lowest.
 
I think it's fair to say that, amongst the super rich....there's an 'Epstein class'.

It's not fair to paint everyone rich with that same brush but just as the very rich get the pick and best of everything I think there is a percent of them (Epstein class) who think that nothing is out of bounds or unacceptable for them and that their wealth and contacts will always find loopholes for them.

These people are Frankenstein's Monster and deserve the same end.
 
Just because they’re not as right wing as you doesn’t mean they weren’t right wing.
I think you would find that I am moderate compared to some.

The point, my smug friend, is that the Tories were not conservative enough.
 
You know you are on the right team when the left side with medieval religious mass murderers just to score points and votes.

Anyone proven to be involved in sex trafficking or far worse deserves to be in jail as a minimum. That includes Trump.

As of now, there is no proof and we are at war. Not Starmer though. He wants to ‘negotiate’. What a deluded prick he is.
 
I'd be curious where Holers would come in a top twenty ranking poll of who was the most right wing to have been on the platform.
How would you test that?

A questionnaire perhaps?
 
Compared to who? Idi Amin?
Your view of my opinions has never been a matter of concern.

I may as well be talking to a mushroom for all the sense you make.
 
Matov is the only proper one out of all you. The rest of you are just cosplaying.
Proper?

Proper what exactly?
 
The only one to have his balls out with what you all want. You’re just a coward and still scared to say it out loud.
What won't I say out loud?

I have said what I think 1000 times on here.
 

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