Epstein

Another one bites the dust.

There is certainly some collateral damage happening. This guy may well have innocently been friends with Epstein. If that was possible !
The kicker is all the time the little man is being front paged the big man becomes chip paper. Basically The real sickoes are getting further from justice.
 
Bang on the money Cryst. ^^^

I would even go a tad further. These lower-ranked people are indeed being grown under the bus, until it is considered the public appetite is sated.
Bill and Hilary Clinton have just finished 'giving evidence' saying they didn't do or see anything wrong.
It's all a media exercise in placating the public and distracting investigation into the real issues. Top of my list is the corrupt system of Government(s), supported by a corrupt legal system and the misinformation machine of the media.
 
Bang on the money Cryst. ^^^

I would even go a tad further. These lower-ranked people are indeed being grown under the bus, until it is considered the public appetite is sated.
Bill and Hilary Clinton have just finished 'giving evidence' saying they didn't do or see anything wrong.
It's all a media exercise in placating the public and distracting investigation into the real issues. Top of my list is the corrupt system of Government(s), supported by a corrupt legal system and the misinformation machine of the media.
Clinton’s make Pinocchio look like a stub nosed pig. 😁
 

"The president went on to say that the president, Trump, ‘has never said anything to me to make me think he was involved,’ and he meant with Epstein," - bill clinton

Bargaining tactic by Clinton.

Everyone knows that, to some extent, Trump was 'linked' to Epstein. The term 'linked' is open to interpretation - anything from they'd met a couple of times all the way to much, much worse.

Bill Clinton, on the other hand, is undoubtedly at the 'Much, much worse' end of things. So an offer of "I'll cover your back if you cover mine" to Trump is very much in Bill's favour.
 
Bargaining tactic by Clinton.

Everyone knows that, to some extent, Trump was 'linked' to Epstein. The term 'linked' is open to interpretation - anything from they'd met a couple of times all the way to much, much worse.

Bill Clinton, on the other hand, is undoubtedly at the 'Much, much worse' end of things. So an offer of "I'll cover your back if you cover mine" to Trump is very much in Bill's favour.

Yep, I've been thinking that for a while.

Before the election Trump would be critical of Clinton openly saying that he thought that the Epstein files would be a problem for him.

After the election, Trump not only tried his hardest to stop the Epstein files but he's made positive noises about Clinton saying he liked him and didn't want him involved in questioning.

To my mind and I think many others it came across as messaging that if you don't say anything we won't.

Essentially I think Trump is controlled and that can only mean he's implicated.....maybe those rumours of blow job videos are true.

The US is essentially owned by Wall Street and donors.....and most of those have loyalties different from an America first perspective.
 
Essentially I think Trump is controlled and that can only mean he's implicated.....maybe those rumours of blow job videos are true.

Maybe.
I don't think that is the only conclusion, though.
He can be controlled without necessarily being implicated, or at least seriously implicated.
That bullet was a very close miss, the shooter managed to find themselves a very advantageous position, considering there should have been a 2-mile security zone, as I am sure Trump realises.

Trump is one of the few things I am genuinely not sure about. All I can see is that there is no logical pattern to his behaviour and pronouncements. From hanging out with Epstein, to reporting him to the Police in 2006, making the file release a cornerstone of his presidential campaign, to being clumsily obstructive once elected. None of it makes any sense. There is clearly a lot going on that we don't know.
 
The US is essentially owned by Wall Street and donors.....and most of those have loyalties different from an America first perspective.
And the Vatican ? you would wonder how a Conservative Christian ideology became so warped and twisted after Ratzinger/Benedict retired ?

And then you hear about Epstein's penchant for recording his 'sessions'. The tapes may come in useful later on.
 
Maybe.
I don't think that is the only conclusion, though.
He can be controlled without necessarily being implicated, or at least seriously implicated.
That bullet was a very close miss, the shooter managed to find themselves a very advantageous position, considering there should have been a 2-mile security zone, as I am sure Trump realises.

Trump is one of the few things I am genuinely not sure about. All I can see is that there is no logical pattern to his behaviour and pronouncements. From hanging out with Epstein, to reporting him to the Police in 2006, making the file release a cornerstone of his presidential campaign, to being clumsily obstructive once elected. None of it makes any sense. There is clearly a lot going on that we don't know.

Yep, all logical conjecture as far as I'm concerned.
 
If we want to go further down the rabbit-hole, some of these people may be subjected to forms of dark 'control' beyond our understanding - think MK Ultra programme, etc.
 
And the Vatican ? you would wonder how a Conservative Christian ideology became so warped and twisted after Ratzinger/Benedict retired ?

Probably the same way everything does.

Money.

We don't have to be religious to recognise truths in the Bible, with 'money being the root of all evil' one of them.
 
If we want to go further down the rabbit-hole, some of these people may be subjected to forms of dark 'control' beyond our understanding - think MK Ultra programme, etc.

My own opinion on that is that while MK Ultra is real and has been tried by both foreign and domestic covert agencies, its results are patchy.

Reliable mind control is not possible....people are different mentally....then again, you don't need a high success rate, you just need the right targets and then to be able to successfully cover your tracks.

If you combine MK Ultra like stuff as part of a package of techniques involving taking already unstable individuals and indoctrinating them via handlers they sometimes become emotionally invested with often over extended periods of time.....well that seems more plausible.

Yeah....If I were one of these evil fecks that would definitely seem something worth exploring.
 
My own opinion on that is that while MK Ultra is real and has been tried by both foreign and domestic agencies that its results are patchy.

Reliable mind control was not possible......then again, you don't need a high success rate, you just need to be able to successfully cover your tracks.

If you combine MK Ultra like stuff as part of a package of techniques involving taking already unstable individuals and indoctrinating them via handlers they sometimes become emotionally invested often over extended periods of time.....well that seems more plausible.

Yeah....If I were one of these evil fecks that would definitely seem something worth exploring.

Yeah.... I imagine Trump wouldn't be the hardest of targets for some of these techniques.
 
Yeah.... I imagine Trump wouldn't be the hardest of targets for some of these techniques.

I liked 2015 Trump and what he came in promising.

2026 Trump?.....Well, we can be thankful that the Democrat transgender child mutilators aren't in power.....but there's not a lot more to be thankful for.

I view him as controlled personally.....how and why, I don't know, but it's probably sometime sexual he was forced to do for positioning.

He's probably one of many.
 
I liked 2015 Trump and what he came in promising.

2026 Trump?.....Well, we can be thankful that the Democrat transgender child mutilators aren't in power.....but there's not a lot more to be thankful for.

I view him as controlled personally.....how and why, I don't know, but it's probably sometime sexual he was forced to do for positioning.

He's probably one of many.

He's preferable because at least he might not be a satanic, paedophile cannibal.

Can the bar possibly get any lower?
 
I totally believe the Clinton's testimony. Bill has an unblemished record for sexual misconduct in office, and not lying about sex, "with that woman". His wife is equally good at not lying about how come acquaintances of sex offenders are accidentally invited to her daughters wedding.
 
He's preferable because at least he might not be a satanic, paedophile cannibal.

Can the bar possibly get any lower?

I don't believe he is no.....but he might have noshed off Bill Clinton.

Which could conceivably be even worse.

As we all realise, Bill Clinton taught Satan everything he knows.
 
I don't believe he is no.....but he might have noshed off Bill Clinton.

Which could conceivably be even worse.

As we all realise, Bill Clinton taught Satan everything he knows.
McAhuna might be right. Here's proof... From 1.25

 
Spicy if true.

Did Epstein lie?
Was the autopsy falsified?...I believe there were two.

Should I have a second JD and coke?


Why would anyone lie about having their prostrate removed?
It's not exactly a line that impresses the chicks and enhances one's street cred.

Given the circles Epstein moved in, the degree of high-level protection he had, it would be completely plausible if his death was faked and he was smuggled out. Predictable even.

Outside the west this is completely accepted. Iran even boasts of targeting Epstein in Israel with their missiles.

Honestly, the only remarkable thing is how many in the West still have difficulty processing the extent to which they are lied to. Even amongst more enlightened and aware Westerners, this is still prevalent, even now, after everything that has transpired.
 

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