Glasner Out

The hysteria from some on here is imo a bit embarrassing. Yes we are on a bad run but there have been reasons for that that are largely resolved. Having no choice but to keep starting JPM was a big one and a reason why we failed to win so many games. Dont take my word for it look at the stats. In nearly all the games mentioned we created more than enough chances to win the game had we had a striker on the pitch that doesn't need 5 chances to score 1 goal. Thats a stat that has nothing to do with Glasner when there is no other recognized striker available. No one is saying JSL is a saviour but he can finish if you put chances in front of him. Going forward I'd expect him to grab 10 goals plus before the end of the season.
Then you look at other positions we have struggled with up until recently. Guessand looked good against Brighton. Not so much against Burnley but I like him. He offers something different. And we are yet to see the best of Brennan Johnson. A quality player I feel sure will come alive soon.
Defensively we are weaker than we were for obvious reasons but only hard work on the training ground can improve that. Munoz has come back from his injury less effective but this could just be managing his injury/building fitness. In short I think we have grounds to be optimistic. I believe not just Glasner but the players too see a very real chance to win the Conference League. That shared goal keeps everyone pulling in the same direction.
Looking at league position I really honestly dont see what all the fuss is about. There are four teams between us and the bottom 3. That means five teams (including West Ham in 3rd bottom position) that have to do better than us for there even to be a chance of us going down. People say Ooh but look at our form. Has anyone looked at the other club's form? Forrest? Same form as us, Spurs? Doing worse than we are, Brighton? Way worse than us. Even Fulham who are 2 points better off than us are on a worse run that us having lost 4 of their last 5.

I said the other day I no longer believe we'll win the Conference League. The reason for that is because Glasner cannot overcome a low block defence and nearly everyone we face in this competition seems to play the same way. I also said I believed we will stay up comfortably and we'll probably finish around the same position we are now. My feeling hasn't changed. All this Glasner out rhetoric is counter productive. Whatever any of us want Parish has decided he sees out his contract. He's leaving at the end of the season anyway so I dont see why getting behind the team and being patient to see what happens in the summer instead of whining that you want something to happen that is clearly not going to.
What a load of inane, asinine codswallop.
 
The hysteria from some on here is imo a bit embarrassing. Yes we are on a bad run but there have been reasons for that that are largely resolved. Having no choice but to keep starting JPM was a big one and a reason why we failed to win so many games. Dont take my word for it look at the stats. In nearly all the games mentioned we created more than enough chances to win the game had we had a striker on the pitch that doesn't need 5 chances to score 1 goal. Thats a stat that has nothing to do with Glasner when there is no other recognized striker available. No one is saying JSL is a saviour but he can finish if you put chances in front of him. Going forward I'd expect him to grab 10 goals plus before the end of the season.
Then you look at other positions we have struggled with up until recently. Guessand looked good against Brighton. Not so much against Burnley but I like him. He offers something different. And we are yet to see the best of Brennan Johnson. A quality player I feel sure will come alive soon.
Defensively we are weaker than we were for obvious reasons but only hard work on the training ground can improve that. Munoz has come back from his injury less effective but this could just be managing his injury/building fitness. In short I think we have grounds to be optimistic. I believe not just Glasner but the players too see a very real chance to win the Conference League. That shared goal keeps everyone pulling in the same direction.
Looking at league position I really honestly dont see what all the fuss is about. There are four teams between us and the bottom 3. That means five teams (including West Ham in 3rd bottom position) that have to do better than us for there even to be a chance of us going down. People say Ooh but look at our form. Has anyone looked at the other club's form? Forrest? Same form as us, Spurs? Doing worse than we are, Brighton? Way worse than us. Even Fulham who are 2 points better off than us are on a worse run that us having lost 4 of their last 5.

I said the other day I no longer believe we'll win the Conference League. The reason for that is because Glasner cannot overcome a low block defence and nearly everyone we face in this competition seems to play the same way. I also said I believed we will stay up comfortably and we'll probably finish around the same position we are now. My feeling hasn't changed. All this Glasner out rhetoric is counter productive. Whatever any of us want Parish has decided he sees out his contract. He's leaving at the end of the season anyway so I dont see why getting behind the team and being patient to see what happens in the summer instead of whining that you want something to happen that is clearly not going to.
At last the voice of reason. Well said.
 
The hysteria from some on here is imo a bit embarrassing. Yes we are on a bad run but there have been reasons for that that are largely resolved. Having no choice but to keep starting JPM was a big one and a reason why we failed to win so many games. Dont take my word for it look at the stats. In nearly all the games mentioned we created more than enough chances to win the game had we had a striker on the pitch that doesn't need 5 chances to score 1 goal. Thats a stat that has nothing to do with Glasner when there is no other recognized striker available. No one is saying JSL is a saviour but he can finish if you put chances in front of him. Going forward I'd expect him to grab 10 goals plus before the end of the season.
Then you look at other positions we have struggled with up until recently. Guessand looked good against Brighton. Not so much against Burnley but I like him. He offers something different. And we are yet to see the best of Brennan Johnson. A quality player I feel sure will come alive soon.
Defensively we are weaker than we were for obvious reasons but only hard work on the training ground can improve that. Munoz has come back from his injury less effective but this could just be managing his injury/building fitness. In short I think we have grounds to be optimistic. I believe not just Glasner but the players too see a very real chance to win the Conference League. That shared goal keeps everyone pulling in the same direction.
Looking at league position I really honestly dont see what all the fuss is about. There are four teams between us and the bottom 3. That means five teams (including West Ham in 3rd bottom position) that have to do better than us for there even to be a chance of us going down. People say Ooh but look at our form. Has anyone looked at the other club's form? Forrest? Same form as us, Spurs? Doing worse than we are, Brighton? Way worse than us. Even Fulham who are 2 points better off than us are on a worse run that us having lost 4 of their last 5.

I said the other day I no longer believe we'll win the Conference League. The reason for that is because Glasner cannot overcome a low block defence and nearly everyone we face in this competition seems to play the same way. I also said I believed we will stay up comfortably and we'll probably finish around the same position we are now. My feeling hasn't changed. All this Glasner out rhetoric is counter productive. Whatever any of us want Parish has decided he sees out his contract. He's leaving at the end of the season anyway so I dont see why getting behind the team and being patient to see what happens in the summer instead of whining that you want something to happen that is clearly not going to.
I don’t see any hysteria, that’s just you slagging off your fellow Palace fans as you often do with your, I know more than you do comments.

The reason for concerns are there for all to see. Poor form, lack of an alternative plan in-game, poor relationship between the manager and the fans, undoubted stress in the dressing room between the manager and players, toxic relationship with Mateta.

All of these whether significant individually or not are reflected in on field performances more particularly the complete capitulation against Burnley when apparently cruising. That was down primarily due to a lack of leadership on the field and ended up a worrying result especially when we couldn’t turn it around.

Yes, we should have enough in the squad to stay up and ultimately I think we will, but I thought exactly the same when we went down with 40 plus points.

This is not hysteria, it’s a genuine concern and something that will perpetuate if we lose the next two matches. We need to see a turnaround in game management and and more awareness and confidence in defence. Someone needs to take the team by the scruff of the neck and demand better performances and that starts with a strong on field captain and a together dressing room.

Glasner wants roasting for what he has done to Palace at a crucial point in the season giving Parish an awful decision on whether to stick or twist. I’ll always appreciate what he did to win us the FA Cup, however I now want him out yesterday.
 
I don’t see any hysteria, that’s just you slagging off your fellow Palace fans as you often do with your, I know more than you do comments.

The reason for concerns are there for all to see. Poor form, lack of an alternative plan in-game, poor relationship between the manager and the fans, undoubted stress in the dressing room between the manager and players, toxic relationship with Mateta.

All of these whether significant individually or not are reflected in on field performances more particularly the complete capitulation against Burnley when apparently cruising. That was down primarily due to a lack of leadership on the field and ended up a worrying result especially when we couldn’t turn it around.

Yes, we should have enough in the squad to stay up and ultimately I think we will, but I thought exactly the same when we went down with 40 plus points.

This is not hysteria, it’s a genuine concern and something that will perpetuate if we lose the next two matches. We need to see a turnaround in game management and and more awareness and confidence in defence. Someone needs to take the team by the scruff of the neck and demand better performances and that starts with a strong on field captain and a together dressing room.

Glasner wants roasting for what he has done to Palace at a crucial point in the season giving Parish an awful decision on whether to stick or twist. I’ll always appreciate what he did to win us the FA Cup, however I now want him out yesterday.
Spot. On.
 
The word I most associate with Glasner from press conferences and interviews is ‘efficiency.’
This is the yardstick by which he measures the team’s performance.
With this in mind the evidence is that he has failed in this regard over the last 2 months.
There are contributory reasons of course, it’s not just down to him, but ultimately he’s responsible for the team’s performance.
Looking back now I would say we’re not as good as that long unbeaten run suggested, and we’re not as bad as indicated by last two months - we’re somewhere in between and that’s why another mid table finish looks likely.

What has surprised me is Glasner’s apparent inability to react to in game circumstances , whether that’s defending set pieces or innovating to unsettle teams.
It’s all too comfortable against us for the opposition.
 
It isn't though. He could resign or be sacked. And already should have been. Look at our results for the last fourteen games and see what you think.
You obviously didn’t get the sarcasm 🙄

That said if OG did manage to start/keep winning until the end of the season, and do well in Europe and the league. I would be happy for him to stay and then fcuk off in the summer.
( I Don’t think he will do well however!)
 
The word I most associate with Glasner from press conferences and interviews is ‘efficiency.’
This is the yardstick by which he measures the team’s performance.
With this in mind the evidence is that he has failed in this regard over the last 2 months.
There are contributory reasons of course, it’s not just down to him, but ultimately he’s responsible for the team’s performance.
Looking back now I would say we’re not as good as that long unbeaten run suggested, and we’re not as bad as indicated by last two months - we’re somewhere in between and that’s why another mid table finish looks likely.

What has surprised me is Glasner’s apparent inability to react to in game circumstances , whether that’s defending set pieces or innovating to unsettle teams.
It’s all too comfortable against us for the opposition.
There were some flakey performances during that run, but the difference from them to now was the grit and belief to see the result through, something decidedly lacking in today's version of the side. No belief, no leadership, evident by what is happening on the pitch, excepting Larsen the rest are going through the motions.
 
There were some flakey performances during that run, but the difference from them to now was the grit and belief to see the result through, something decidedly lacking in today's version of the side. No belief, no leadership, evident by what is happening on the pitch, excepting Larsen the rest are going through the motions.

That’s the issue.

I would and have always forgiven Palace teams for being a bit sh!t, it almost doesn’t even feature in my thinking as to whether they are or not.

It’s the lack of commitment which bothers me. There’s a few out there however many more who don’t even look present whilst on the pitch.

That’s what p!sses me off and that’s where I identify the manager as the cause, especially when he fails to find a solution.
 
That’s the issue.

I would and have always forgiven Palace teams for being a bit sh!t, it almost doesn’t even feature in my thinking as to whether they are or not.

It’s the lack of commitment which bothers me. There’s a few out there however many more who don’t even look present whilst on the pitch.

That’s what p!sses me off and that’s where I identify the manager as the cause, especially when he fails to find a solution.
Sadly,if we lose tonight and again at the weekend to Wolves,I may be of the opinion that OG, does not give a damn, whether we get relegated and should be removed immediately.
 
There's a lot of 'if we lose...' type of posts on here at the moment, which is understandable.

Out of interest, for those who want Glasner gone, does your view change if we win tonight and Sunday?
 
There's a lot of 'if we lose...' type of posts on here at the moment, which is understandable.

Out of interest, for those who want Glasner gone, does your view change if we win tonight and Sunday?
Depends on how the team plays. If it's clear the team are busting a gut then fair enough. Walking around and going through the motions isn't going to cut it. Nor is bizarre team selection and subs. Which I just don't think Glasner can help doing. I also really don't want the five at the back either but that is clearly not going to stop.
Minimum is to win these two games convincingly to placate the fans I would think.
I don't see Glasner as able to do it, frankly. But let's hope for the best. It's better for us all after all.
 
There's a lot of 'if we lose...' type of posts on here at the moment, which is understandable.

Out of interest, for those who want Glasner gone, does your view change if we win tonight and Sunday?
No, mine wouldn't. I still think he should go.
 
Sadly,if we lose tonight and again at the weekend to Wolves,I may be of the opinion that OG, does not give a damn, whether we get relegated and should be removed immediately.

I think the Wolves game is pivotal. It is a must win. They have improved, but haven't won away all season.
If we can't beat them we are right in the relegation dogfight.

I'm not sure OG doesn't give a damn but his position and his ability to motivate must be questioned.
 
I’m still reeling from throwing 3 points away last week and the manner in which it happened. That didn’t look like a team giving their all for the manager- like we all have seen last season. Something has changed in the mentality of the group, Glasner’s announcement and outburst /Marc’s departure/ JP’s disgraceful behaviour are all obvious factors. However , I just don’t see the players responding to Glasner as they once did……sadly results reinforce this.

If we don’t have a win tonight and a cushion to take back to Selhurst - I don’t think many of us will be turning up on Thursday night thinking we’ll be able to turn it around under Glasner.
 

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