Crystal Palace vs. Burnley match thread

I’ve decided losing to Burnley was all part of a cunning plan. With Spam improving under Nuno , if Burnley can go on a run that opens up the possibility of the dream outcome whereby Forest and Brighton go down along with Wolves. It could happen.
 
I think bizarrely if it had been higher placed opposition I’d believe it more. I don’t think anyone wanted the humiliation of losing to Macclesfield.

Your last bit I completely agree with. The focus now is staying up. The Conference League (which we’ve been rubbish in anyway) has to be a distant second to that
I think we would rather have drawn someone bigger for sure, but we weren't that lucky. I suppose the logic would have been that if we win the Conference, the humiliation would evaporate.

We'll never know.
 
I’ve decided losing to Burnley was all part of a cunning plan. With Spam improving under Nuno , if Burnley can go on a run that opens up the possibility of the dream outcome whereby Forest and Brighton go down along with Wolves. It could happen.
Now that would be a comforting fiction.
 
I remember, many, many years ago, when I was knee high to a grasshopper, being excited as we were beating Millwall at Selhurst Park 3-0 at half time. Final score? 3-4. Ah well.

which year was this?
I remember in 1989 hopkins scoring a 25 yard own goal after 2 mins, we came back to lead 3-1. They then scored 2 but brighty got the winner to make it 4-3 to us!!
 
Then it would have looked obvious.

I'm not asking people to believe it. I'm just saying that I believe that it was a strategic decision.
Must admit my thought after the Maccelsfield game was that as there was no realistic chance of us winning the FA Cup again getting knocked out early then saved us maybe one or two round games given that we were we had a busy end of year and were doing OK in the league and had the conference cup to concentrate on. It being an actual planned lose didnt occur to me - and I do find it hard to beleive it was planned as executed too well! !
 
No idea where to post this... but here goes...

Wharton has just not kicked on for me this season, but he's just turned 22, should be getting better all the time. Two thoughts:

1) he's a bit whingey during games (I know he's a northerner but as one myself I know you have to manage it)

2) watching the Brentford game tonight Eze just can't get involved and I wonder if there's a bit of ying and yang with Wharton. If there's a free spirit on the pitch Adam can tune in and hit them, if there isn't, well it just wont happen... in the immediate term, I wonder if JSL has that free spirit thing about him (by which I mean at least moving off the ball positively), Wharton played him in for the first goal like it was something they do all the time...
 
Incredibly frustrating at the time, but in the cold light of day I think last night can be filed away under 's*** happens, that's football'.

It's easy to say now that we should have shut up shop and played on the break at 2-0, but if the team had taken that approach and Burnley had found a way back into the game then we'd all be complaining that they should have kept the foot on their throats when we were in the ascendancy.

Plus, consider the emotions. The team have gone through a long rough patch and we saw after the Brighton game how much it meant to them to win again. I'm sure they wanted very much to follow it up not only with another win, but with a good performance for us to enjoy and to get the feel good factor back. Burnley made one chance to score before they actually did, so there was a little warning, but at the same time they were giving the worst defensive performance I've seen for years. We looked like getting more goals. Our new striker was on a hat trick. Add it all up and I can understand why palace stayed on the front foot and weren't more risk averse. It all went wrong, but I don't put that down to negligence or carelessness.

Mistakes were of course made, but another week a tiny bit of luck goes our way and we ride those mistakes out. VAR could have pulled up the would-be handball in the build up to one of their goals, or given a flying f*** about a two handed shove in the back of Kamada in the box. The Lerma own goal was as freakish as it was poor, possibly related to an emotional overreaction to letting the lead slip, but he was at least trying.

I'm not saying we should need to rely on things like the god awful VAR, or that the result is not our own fault, but the game swung on a mad ten minute spell during which a couple of key moments could easily have gone differently.

Overall, and as poorly as they've played for long spells this season, last night was more a bizarre one-off than part of a specific pattern. I don't think it alters where we are overall as a team or club. Results mostly went our way. It remains a squad in transition, but for whom the direction of travel will not become clear until the new manager arrives and defines it. That will not happen until summer anyway, and any changes made now would be an unnecessary risk. I don't think they are any less likely to limp over the line in unspectacular fashion now than they were 48 hours ago.
 
Incredibly frustrating at the time, but in the cold light of day I think last night can be filed away under 's*** happens, that's football'.

It's easy to say now that we should have shut up shop and played on the break at 2-0, but if the team had taken that approach and Burnley had found a way back into the game then we'd all be complaining that they should have kept the foot on their throats when we were in the ascendancy.

Plus, consider the emotions. The team have gone through a long rough patch and we saw after the Brighton game how much it meant to them to win again. I'm sure they wanted very much to follow it up not only with another win, but with a good performance for us to enjoy and to get the feel good factor back. Burnley made one chance to score before they actually did, so there was a little warning, but at the same time they were giving the worst defensive performance I've seen for years. We looked like getting more goals. Our new striker was on a hat trick. Add it all up and I can understand why palace stayed on the front foot and weren't more risk averse. It all went wrong, but I don't put that down to negligence or carelessness.

Mistakes were of course made, but another week a tiny bit of luck goes our way and we ride those mistakes out. VAR could have pulled up the would-be handball in the build up to one of their goals, or given a flying f*** about a two handed shove in the back of Kamada in the box. The Lerma own goal was as freakish as it was poor, possibly related to an emotional overreaction to letting the lead slip, but he was at least trying.

I'm not saying we should need to rely on things like the god awful VAR, or that the result is not our own fault, but the game swung on a mad ten minute spell during which a couple of key moments could easily have gone differently.

Overall, and as poorly as they've played for long spells this season, last night was more a bizarre one-off than part of a specific pattern. I don't think it alters where we are overall as a team or club. Results mostly went our way. It remains a squad in transition, but for whom the direction of travel will not become clear until the new manager arrives and defines it. That will not happen until summer anyway, and any changes made now would be an unnecessary risk. I don't think they are any less likely to limp over the line in unspectacular fashion now than they were 48 hours ago.
Would love to agree with you and objectively all you say is correct.... but 3 goals conceded at home to a team destined for relegation in 7 mins (or whatever it was)when we are 2 up... I've only ever experienced that level of momentum swing watching kids football.
 
Would love to agree with you and objectively all you say is correct.... but 3 goals conceded at home to a team destined for relegation in 7 mins (or whatever it was)when we are 2 up... I've only ever experienced that level of momentum swing watching kids football.
Exactly. It's such an outlier as to have no wider implications.
 
Maybe he'd get a shot on target
Well he seems to be struggling to break down the low block but that’s fine as Glasner has asked if they can raise it from ‘low’ to ‘medium’. XG says that means we will score before the sun becomes a red giant and engulfs the earth so that’s good
 
I recall us taking an early 2-0 lead at home to Wolves in the 80s, with one of the scorers being Chris Jones on his debut. We lost the game 3-4.
Paul Barron spilled the ball into his own net. John Burridge was the Wolves goalkeeper.
Thanks for bringing that unwanted memory back to the surface. I went with my best friend who was a Wolves fan, making it a particularly unpleasant experience in an era of almost unmitigated misery as a Palace fan.
 

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