Our present squad

[ASCPFC]

I’d rather throw £100k a week at Curtis Jones than Kamada.

You can throw it at me if you like.
I'm pretty good at catching too.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Value is indeed relative, but cannot be assessed only in the context of other poor-value players. Go back to that earlier link I posted. If its even vaguely correct then Kamada is on three times what Wharton is on. Five times Devenny who, average though he himself is, would do not much worse in centre mid than Kamada in my view. Kamadas wage is getting on for twice what Mateta, Hughes, Richards, Michell, reportedly get. Half again what Lerma, Sarr, and Munoz get. Most of these significantly outperform him.

In that relative context, Kamada is very poor value for wages.

It also shows that the idea we could attract a better player than Kamada for half his wage is far from unrealistic. We have examples in our squad.

I am not suggesting we replace Kamada with a cheap option just to save the wages. I am suggesting we get better value. Happy for Palace to give someone £105k pw if they can afford it, and if he is worth that wage. Kamada hasn't been, and I would be very surprised if anyone in a serious league offered him that sort of money come the summer.

Anyway, this has been an interesting discussion, so cheers

You’re comparing apples with oranges (free agents vs transfer fees) but we’re going round the houses. Yes, you can get better players than Kamada on less than £100k a week, but they’ll always command a chunky transfer fee, and absolutely nobody is signing for £30k a week.

If you think Devenny is about as good as Kamada, or ‘not much worse’, I think we’re living on different planets.

 

[Eaglecoops]

With regard to Kamada’s salary it was almost certainly based on the fact that he was a free transfer so £10m for 2 years, but nothing back of course when he goes again.

I don’t mind a couple of players like that on the squad provided their wage doesn’t totally upset the applecart with the rest of the squad.

Do I think he’s worth £5m a season in wages, absolutely not but he’s not going to be with us next season, he’ll be with Glasner at Macclesfield.

 

[JHB]

When I assess Kamada it’s always the same. Do we look a better team with him or without him? Unequivocally after the first third of last season we have been a better team with him. Now I am not remotely saying he is at this level but in many ways it’s like when Deschaps played for France. Was he anywhere near as eye catching as the other players? No. Was he a critical cog in the machine? absolutely.

For me it’s no coincidence the defence, wing backs and Wharton all looked better when Kamada was in and worse when he wasn’t. Sometimes you have to have a player who creates conditions for other players to do things that let them be at their best. Kamada is one of those players

 

[Elphers40]

I’d rather throw £100k a week at Curtis Jones than Kamada.

Or Jordan James and Hayden Hackney (at least both are goal scoring midfielders).

But I do think Kamada adds some versatility to the squad (a little bit like Shluppy did for a few seasons) and there is some value in that but I think the £100k a week is the sticking point for many.

 

[MrRobbo]

Value is indeed relative, but cannot be assessed only in the context of other poor-value players. Go back to that earlier link I posted. If its even vaguely correct then Kamada is on three times what Wharton is on. Five times Devenny who, average though he himself is, would do not much worse in centre mid than Kamada in my view. Kamadas wage is getting on for twice what Mateta, Hughes, Richards, Michell, reportedly get. Half again what Lerma, Sarr, and Munoz get. Most of these significantly outperform him.

In that relative context, Kamada is very poor value for wages.

It also shows that the idea we could attract a better player than Kamada for half his wage is far from unrealistic. We have examples in our squad.

I am not suggesting we replace Kamada with a cheap option just to save the wages. I am suggesting we get better value. Happy for Palace to give someone £105k pw if they can afford it, and if he is worth that wage. Kamada hasn't been, and I would be very surprised if anyone in a serious league offered him that sort of money come the summer.

Anyway, this has been an interesting discussion, so cheers.

But wages aren't set on performance. Perceived value at point of signing the contract.

Kamada had a renewal offer on the table from Lazio after having played a full season for them. Most of the others mentioned were youths, or sat in the reserves somewhere.

 

[sprites]

When I assess Kamada it’s always the same. Do we look a better team with him or without him? Unequivocally after the first third of last season we have been a better team with him. Now I am not remotely saying he is at this level but in many ways it’s like when Deschaps played for France. Was he anywhere near as eye catching as the other players? No. Was he a critical cog in the machine? absolutely.

For me it’s no coincidence the defence, wing backs and Wharton all looked better when Kamada was in and worse when he wasn’t. Sometimes you have to have a player who creates conditions for other players to do things that let them be at their best. Kamada is one of those players

Again, it's just not true.

His absence has conveniently coincided with the absence of our two most important players - Sarr and Munoz - plus the woeful form of our only fit striker. And the loss of our captain. And the disruption caused by a wantaway manager. So in that sense, it is absolutely what you claim it is not - a coincidence.

Anyway, these forums are all about opinions. I respect yours.

 

[Mystic Smeg]

Again, it's just not true.

His absence has conveniently coincided with the absence of our two most important players - Sarr and Munoz - plus the woeful form of our only fit striker. And the loss of our captain. And the disruption caused by a wantaway manager. So in that sense, it is absolutely what you claim it is not - a coincidence.

Anyway, these forums are all about opinions. I respect yours.

Clueless mate....just my opinion though

Daichi has been quality over the last year

 

[sprites]

Clueless mate....just my opinion though

Daichi has been quality over the last year

Yeah, so we're just never going to agree on that. So let's save ourselves the energy.