Next Manager?

dreamwaverider said:
Schmidt track record of loyalty is similar to Glasner, would be lucky to get more than 100 games.
OG short era had huge mid term success but that has been badly stained by his terrible attitude/relationship with Parish over the past few months and continuing to date.
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Yes, i think he is not the guy for us, Premier League involvement is a necessity for me.
 
Vaibow said:
It's all about branding... for want of a better word.

We are south London, gritty under dogs, unearth a few gems, we push forward and sometimes... just sometimes, we get lucky.

Our goal needs to be getting to 40 points in record time each year, with the ambition of 50 points.

We need a manager who's up for that and remembers that.

We go out there, play good football, we enjoy mid table of the prem.

We need a positive manager who gets the best out of the players.

I want us to forget about competing top 8, or thinking we are in that category.. we aren't and that's ok.

It's about the journey... not destination.
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Realism.
It'll be interesting in due course to hear what OG's aims for the club were. Aspirations are fine but it seems he was really expecting us to soar and quickly too. I suppose to be fair we did for a while.
 
Willo said:

What You REALLY Need to Know About Football Manager Recruitment • Statsbomb Blog Archive

At the club level managerial hiring is also the activity that might have the single most chaotic, backwards process of anything in football.
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An interesting read Willo.

The notion that the manager, coaching staff, playing squad available, budgets, recruitment etc should be a holistic process seems an obvious one to me, however I think this is rarely the case.

The problem with football (from my very ignorant armchair) seems to be that it is such a competitive market and even more so dynamic/volatile envrionment. It's therefore easy to see how these things may not always perfectly align and rash or highly subjective decisions can be made to individual elements, unaligned to all others, causing mayhem.

I'd suggest, again from my proverbial armchair, that it all seems to go wrong when no effort is made to align all these things holistically. Look at Man United as one example. Fergie seemed to be running that show with players, the board, fans etc all willing to let him do so - (Borat accent) 'Great success'. Once he went however, the board seemed quite separate from the incoming manager(s), trying to oversee all these elements in an ad hoc reactive fashion, desperately just trying to buy the next best manager or players ever since with no avail and seemingly no joined-up approach across the club - 'no success'.

Parish often gets maligned when things go wrong however I think having him as an arrowhead for the club is ultimately preferable to many other options and has ultimately seen us move forward under his stewardship. It may not be a continual upward trajectory, but things could be so much worse... we should all know!
 
Willo said:

What You REALLY Need to Know About Football Manager Recruitment • Statsbomb Blog Archive

At the club level managerial hiring is also the activity that might have the single most chaotic, backwards process of anything in football.
blogarchive.statsbomb.com blogarchive.statsbomb.com
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Interesting. One of the big questions is who do the coaches and performance staff work for? Paddy works for Palace but the Austrian coaches? If they are the Club’s employees there is no reason to dismiss them when Glasner goes. It’s best to keep a settled back room staff where agreeable and recruit for the gaps being guided by the new manager. This is what Brentford do to keep a level of continuity and maybe a reason why Frank’s Tottenham are so erratic.

I keep an eye on the dugout during matches. Ronald Brunmayr continually points things out to Ollie who rarely seems to listen especially when there are issues he is not happy with. You can tell by the way he turns around to the bench flapping his arms and gives his opinion. The coaching team know not to contradict him and keep quiet. I suspect some would be quite happy to stay on for a new manager.
 
I work in what used to be the public sector and what they've been doing there for a while is not promoting from the inside but hiring people from Ladbrokes, Wetherspoons or Premier Inns who have 'management skills'. So if we put in an advert stating 'C*nt wanted, salary £1million per year' we'll get a range of bullying idiots with no idea what they're doing. Bit left field but it might work.
 
ex hibitionist said:
I work in what used to be the public sector and what they've been doing there for a while is not promoting from the inside but hiring people from Ladbrokes, Wetherspoons or Premier Inns who have 'management skills'. So if we put in an advert stating 'C*nt wanted, salary £1million per year' we'll get a range of bullying idiots with no idea what they're doing. Bit left field but it might work.
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Put then money up and we could get Louis Walsh.
 
Norbury Old Git said:
Interesting. One of the big questions is who do the coaches and performance staff work for? Paddy works for Palace but the Austrian coaches? If they are the Club’s employees there is no reason to dismiss them when Glasner goes. It’s best to keep a settled back room staff where agreeable and recruit for the gaps being guided by the new manager. This is what Brentford do to keep a level of continuity and maybe a reason why Frank’s Tottenham are so erratic.

I keep an eye on the dugout during matches. Ronald Brunmayr continually points things out to Ollie who rarely seems to listen especially when there are issues he is not happy with. You can tell by the way he turns around to the bench flapping his arms and gives his opinion. The coaching team know not to contradict him and keep quiet. I suspect some would be quite happy to stay on for a new manager.
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I think that is Dominos Pizza menu
 
Norbury Old Git said:
Interesting. One of the big questions is who do the coaches and performance staff work for? Paddy works for Palace but the Austrian coaches? If they are the Club’s employees there is no reason to dismiss them when Glasner goes. It’s best to keep a settled back room staff where agreeable and recruit for the gaps being guided by the new manager. This is what Brentford do to keep a level of continuity and maybe a reason why Frank’s Tottenham are so erratic.

I keep an eye on the dugout during matches. Ronald Brunmayr continually points things out to Ollie who rarely seems to listen especially when there are issues he is not happy with. You can tell by the way he turns around to the bench flapping his arms and gives his opinion. The coaching team know not to contradict him and keep quiet. I suspect some would be quite happy to stay on for a new manager.
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It may well be that those backroom staff that arrived with OG will want to leave with him too, going on to whatever is his next project - additionally any incoming manager will no doubt have at least some of their own entourage of people that they like to work with - presumably then its down to the club to find people with the right skill set to slot into any remaining gaps.
 
Caterham said:
It may well be that those backroom staff that arrived with OG will want to leave with him too, going on to whatever is his next project - additionally any incoming manager will no doubt have at least some of their own entourage of people that they like to work with - presumably then its down to the club to find people with the right skill set to slot into any remaining gaps.
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Brunmayr, Angerschmid, Pogatetz have worked with Glasner before in Germany and Austria.
They are part of 'Team Glasner' and they will all depart together.
 
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