All the talk seems to be about Labour 'angry' about Mandleson and this Epstein stuff. Like it has come as a surprise. It is quite staggering to absorb this. The is a man who had to resign not once but twice from Ministerial posts. And was photographed numerous times in Epsteins company. And what do Labour do? They make him a Lord so they can bring him back in Goverment and then they make him Ambassador to the US. WTF? And yet now they proclaim to be angry because it turns out (and who would have thought it?) that Mandleson is a full on wrong'un. Who knew?
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Our mainstream political parties and media are a pantomime.
Sits a bit uneasy that the only person looking likely to serve any jail time out of this release (albeit quite rightly) is one of the few people named in these papers that isn’t suspected of being a big ol’ paedo.
Must be quite a few rich and powerful men praising the lord for a Peter Mandelson sized distraction right now.
Must be quite a few rich and powerful men praising the lord for a Peter Mandelson sized distraction right now.
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I just lol thinking of this in the voice of golam 😆😆😆
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Im going with the latter
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Who do you mean is the only person looking at jail time?
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mmm. I feel ex for a reason and I doubt it was her love of sushi 🤔😆😳
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Not talking about anything at all just suggesting Reform are unusually quiet.. Nothing there subject to.legal anything..
So nothing to see on terms of current legal action- which incidentally there is none.
And as for Mandelson?.Hang him high
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Farage has commented on Mandelson. I think it's reasonable for him to talk on matters of national security, official secrets and all that, but politics is about being careful with words.
The Royals are out of bounds and commenting on fluid situations can come back to bite you.
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To lighten the mood.
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I highly suspect that anything that would enable someone to be jailed over sexual abuse hasn't been released.
That was the whole point, being able to control people.
You'd have to pull it from their dead hands.
They will always have plausible deniability that all the stuff they won't release is damaging to victims or child poorn. While I believe them that it's ethical not to release the sick stuff, I also believe that they are holding back anything that proves that people on that island and elsewhere were filmed doing stuff that would put them in jail.
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The kind of information being passed to an investor and is deemed insider trading would be criminal.
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Well, I don't believe that Epstein killed himself.
He was taken out.
He just happens to commit suicide with both guards asleep and with the cameras not working (so they said).....probably the most infamous prisoner in the US at the time, who had been put on suicide watch despite claiming that his cell mate had tried to strangle him.
Then years later we get told that a camera on a relevant cell door was actually working only to see that the video was edited and time cut out.....with the reason given being bullshit.
Too many coincidences and omissions for me.
He was taken out.
He just happens to commit suicide with both guards asleep and with the cameras not working (so they said).....probably the most infamous prisoner in the US at the time, who had been put on suicide watch despite claiming that his cell mate had tried to strangle him.
Then years later we get told that a camera on a relevant cell door was actually working only to see that the video was edited and time cut out.....with the reason given being bullshit.
Too many coincidences and omissions for me.
Probably true. A managed release designed to release the pressure cooker, so to speak.
But it is telling that they feel obliged to at least react to public pressure.
An interesting snippet I saw is that Ghislaine Maxwell had a helicopter licence and there were pictures of her apparently flying a helicopter on and off the island. Helicopters don't require a flight log like aircraft do, so there will be no record of some of the bigger fish moving to and from the island. The flight logs may ironically be the more innocent suckers who were too naive to realise what they were getting into, which is probably why our media draw attention to them so much.
Epstein's 'suicide' subverted the whole idea of a conspiracy theory.
Someone publicly airing the mainstream 'suicide' story, will soon find out they are the ones who are openly laughed at.