Who's Next?

[PatrickA]

Doucoure, Could, come back and play to a decent standard, If, he did for 4 months he becomes a 40m Player, Wharton is 80m player in 18 months, and Lacroix would be 60m+

I hope you are right, but this seems to be a very optimistic take.
Doucoure has been out for the best part of a couple of years with no return date in sight.
It seems more likely we're looking at a Wickham/Ferguson scenario with the player unable to continue at top level.

Wharton has had a mixed season.
As good as most midfielders in some aspects of the game but never scores, rarely assists, can't shoot, can go missing.
He's not the sort of rounded player that the top clubs will pay big bucks for unless he improves on other facets of the game.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

EVERY CLUB, below the Champions League top 12, is a selling club. But there is a right way and a wrong way to go about it.

we now resemble Pompey, won the FA cup and got relegated.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

EVERY CLUB, below the Champions League top 12, is a selling club. But there is a right way and a wrong way to go about it.

we now resemble Pompey, won the FA cup and got relegated.

and Wigan

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

I hope you are right, but this seems to be a very optimistic take.
Doucoure has been out for the best part of a couple of years with no return date in sight.
It seems more likely we're looking at a Wickham/Ferguson scenario with the player unable to continue at top level.

Wharton has had a mixed season.
As good as most midfielders in some aspects of the game but never scores, rarely assists, can't shoot, can go missing.
He's not the sort of rounded player that the top clubs will pay big bucks for unless he improves on other facets of the game.

i agree, i would hope to see an improvement in Whartons overall game in the next 18 months, and Doucoure is still only 26, fingers crossed, him and Riad staying fit is like two new players,

 

[pssguy]

You have to ask yourself does this happen at Brentford, at Fulham, at West Ham, at Wolves, even at Brighton and if not why are we singled out for this crappy behaviour?

I think it varies by club. Parish tends to hold on to players too long so that we either get considerably less for them than we could have done e.g. Zaha, Guehi or they want to leave e,g Mateta - and maybe Munoz. He did well to extend Olise and I have no issues with Eze going - especially his three consecutive winning goals in the FA Cup. And TBF, we have actually won a domestic cup, unlike any of the teams you mentioned. I suspect that some of their supporters are unhappy about that.
At Brentford, Wissa downed tools and at West Ham Paqueta has wanted out for years so we are not alone in having disgruntled players

 

[Eaglecoops]

Dont forget 35m for Johnson, that's your 100m, with no RB or CF

We didn’t buy well in Pino and we haven’t bought Uche so the cost was basically Canvot, Sosa and Pino circa £47m. Buying Johnson is pretty much irrelevant as the horse had already bolted in terms of players required in the summer window.

Glasner had previously complained there is only kids on the bench which presumably includes Canvot I should imagine so in the summer our only bought experience was Sosa and Pino and of course we let firstly JRS and then Esse go on loan.

We needed replacements before the January window. £30m+ now on Johnson totally feels like a knee jerk reaction for a manager who had already made his escape plan and he is of course yet another winger that was not a massive priority anyway.

After last season we needed a direct replacement for Eze, another experienced CH, right back and left back cover and a goal scorer. We had the money for Eze to utilise.

We ended up with Pino as the Eze replacement, Canvot as our “experienced” CH, Sosa as our left back cover, no right back cover and Uche on loan who is not a goal scoring CF. Total cost £47.5m. It’s hardly £100m

I stick by my point that we didn’t need to spend £100m during that window and that with the players we did buy it ended up being a very poor window for us.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I think it varies by club. Parish tends to hold on to players too long so that we either get considerably less for them than we could have done e.g. Zaha, Guehi or they want to leave e,g Mateta - and maybe Munoz. He did well to extend Olise and I have no issues with Eze going - especially his three consecutive winning goals in the FA Cup. And TBF, we have actually won a domestic cup, unlike any of the teams you mentioned. I suspect that some of their supporters are unhappy about that.
At Brentford, Wissa downed tools and at West Ham Paqueta has wanted out for years so we are not alone in having disgruntled players

And in common with other players they could be almost instantly regruntled by an extra £5 m a year.

 

[PatrickA]

We didn’t buy well in Pino and we haven’t bought Uche so the cost was basically Canvot, Sosa and Pino circa £47m. Buying Johnson is pretty much irrelevant as the horse had already bolted in terms of players required in the summer window.

Glasner had previously complained there is only kids on the bench which presumably includes Canvot I should imagine so in the summer our only bought experience was Sosa and Pino and of course we let firstly JRS and then Esse go on loan.

We needed replacements before the January window. £30m+ now on Johnson totally feels like a knee jerk reaction for a manager who had already made his escape plan and he is of course yet another winger that was not a massive priority anyway.

After last season we needed a direct replacement for Eze, another experienced CH, right back and left back cover and a goal scorer. We had the money for Eze to utilise.

We ended up with Pino as the Eze replacement, Canvot as our “experienced” CH, Sosa as our left back cover, no right back cover and Uche on loan who is not a goal scoring CF. Total cost £47.5m. It’s hardly £100m

I stick by my point that we didn’t need to spend £100m during that window and that with the players we did buy it ended up being a very poor window for us.

I agree that it was a very poor window.
Parish has been great for us, so it seems a little churlish to offer mild criticism.
However, it has ro be said we've rarely had a balanced squad during our return to the Premier League .
We've usually been ok with regard to centre backs and midfielders but often short of cover at full back and in the forward areas .

I recall only having Benteke as a striket option and fans were worried what would happen if he got injured.
Parish had no time for this negative thinking and retorted, 'what happens if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow?'
Of course Benteke duly got injured.....

 

[JHB]

We didn’t buy well in Pino and we haven’t bought Uche so the cost was basically Canvot, Sosa and Pino circa £47m. Buying Johnson is pretty much irrelevant as the horse had already bolted in terms of players required in the summer window.

Glasner had previously complained there is only kids on the bench which presumably includes Canvot I should imagine so in the summer our only bought experience was Sosa and Pino and of course we let firstly JRS and then Esse go on loan.

We needed replacements before the January window. £30m+ now on Johnson totally feels like a knee jerk reaction for a manager who had already made his escape plan and he is of course yet another winger that was not a massive priority anyway.

After last season we needed a direct replacement for Eze, another experienced CH, right back and left back cover and a goal scorer. We had the money for Eze to utilise.

We ended up with Pino as the Eze replacement, Canvot as our “experienced” CH, Sosa as our left back cover, no right back cover and Uche on loan who is not a goal scoring CF. Total cost £47.5m. It’s hardly £100m

I stick by my point that we didn’t need to spend £100m during that window and that with the players we did buy it ended up being a very poor window for us.

I agree on adding depth at RWB in particular. I also agree the summer signings have yet to set the world on fire. Pino has been disappointing especially given he’s a Spanish international (with more international goals and appearances than Eze). I think Canvot has done ok all be it he isn’t an experienced centre half.

I am not sure who the like for like replacement for Eze and experienced Premier League level CH were who were available for the same cost were though? Buying a replacement for Eze if you wanted true like for like was going to mean buying a £50m player. An experienced and proven premier league centre half doesn’t come cheap either and could easily be £30m. That still would have left us short up front and at RWB

 

[crystal-purley]

Baba O'Riley

Good song

 

[doombear]

Good song

Great album - Who's Next; one of my favourites.

 

[cryrst]

I wanted there to be a Super League so that all the big clubs would please f*** off and play each other four times a year. Like the Scottish League but more boring.
Leave real football clubs to it. Let the greedy players want to go there. Maybe have a wage cap in our new Premier League. Maybe have a ticket price ceiling. I can but dream I guess. It would be f***ing great to get rid of Man City, Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea maybe Liverpool. Although I have some respect for Liverpool. As they always treat us well in general.

For a few years it would be ok but then eventually you would have another elite group sharing the places the trophies and the dough. We could be one. That is why it would create the same place we are now.

 

[Cucking Funt]

It's starting to look like the real loss the club's suffered was Freedman.

 

[crystal-purley]

Still dead.

or hiding

 

[Part Time James]

Remember when we used to sneer at having players like Jeffrey Schlupp and James Tomkins on the bench? We didn't know we were born.

 

[Foxy82]

Remember when we used to sneer at having players like Jeffrey Schlupp and James Tomkins on the bench? We didn't know we were born.

Indeed, this absolute thunderbastard from Jeff vs Fulham.

What I wouldn't do for one of our current squad to be able to thwack a ball as cleanly as that.

 

[Bobtail]

Great album - Who's Next; one of my favourites.

Sleeve picture facilities better than the bogs in the Arthur!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Sleeve picture facilities better than the bogs in the Arthur!

A sleeve on which they were standing around a late period Benteke.

 

[cryrst]

It's starting to look like the real loss the club's suffered was Freedman.

And OG got rid maybe 💁

 

[Linford]

And OG got rid maybe 💁

Nope, he was poached by a Saudi club.