Glasner Out

JHB said:
You appear to have me confused with somebody else. I don’t want him sacked. I just want better results. We haven’t been competitive all season. We’ve taken 2 points from our last 18 available. That’s not being competitive. Despite that what I really want to see is OG get us back in form and winning again.

If we continue to play this poorly for a further extended period then the sacking conversation heats up but I hope that doesn’t happen.

I also think there is a case for moving on if OG won’t sign a new contract as that would mean he’s leaving at the end of the season anyway but again I’d rather he signed and we had certainty we can build from.
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What makes you think your entitled to anything?
 
JHB said:
I don’t really think I am to be honest. I do think if not entitled we should at least have expect our team to put in a better performance than yesterday. Not sure why that seems to be controversial
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Nothings controversial, but yesterday's performance had nothing to do with formation, tactics, etc id put the blame entirely down to the players. Okay he could have picked a stronger 11 but the team he did pick, had more than enough quality.
 
rikz said:
Nothings controversial, but yesterday's performance had nothing to do with formation, tactics, etc id put the blame entirely down to the players. Okay he could have picked a stronger 11 but the team he did pick, had more than enough quality.
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Yeah I agree with most of this. Whatever the formation we should have had more than enough to win. Players did not step up or show much professionalism. The staring 11 had 7 internationals in it so the players need to take the lion’s share of the blame. I think we should and could have played more aggressive tactics but for me the bigger thing for coaches and the manager to look at is why the mindset was so wrong.
 
Having read a few of the comments here and suffered the expected barrage of sarcasm from my friends in the pub at lunchtime I wondered if I watched a different game to others yesterday.

Living where I do I haven’t been to Selhurst for years so only watch the TV games and an occasional away game. I do though get to watch a lot of National League football, so I knew what to expect. These guys have learned all the modern tactics. They know how to block, press and not allow time on the ball. They know the dark arts too and are fit and often pretty tough. They know how to fight. What they lack are the skills to overcome these tactics so the games are often not full of skilled flowing football, but battles.

So I knew it would be tougher than some expected as they were bound to be highly motivated. Even with the weakened team we fielded we did have the skills to prevail and even if we weren’t able to show them all the time we created enough chances to win the game, but as so often recently they just missed. They scored one good goal through their only tactic of relying on set pieces and another lucky one through bad bounces and what looked to me to be an offside leg.

The TV commentators said the pitch was good and suited Palace. I disagree. I thought it produced a bounce that we consistently misjudged and a surface that bobbled. I also thought the officials were reacting as though they wanted to be part of history and let some challenges go that would not be allowed in the PL.

I still think that 99 times out of 100 with the team we put out we would have won the game. We were cruising until they scored. We only needed one of the near misses to have gone in. If the offside goal was ruled out and extra time played our fitness level would have shown.

It was just one of those games. Embarrassing. Disappointing. Not a disaster.
 
eaglesdare said:
www.thesun.co.uk

Palace boss Glasner spotted in swanky Soho bar after biggest FA Cup upset ever

CRYSTAL PALACE boss Oliver Glasner was spotted in a swanky Soho bar just hours after suffering the biggest FA Cup upset in history. Palace, the winners of last season’s final against Manchester Cit…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
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oh I didnt realise he wasnt allowed to , how many of yous whos had a s*** day at the office go out to unwind , I know I have , papers just love finding a story thats not there to stir up s***
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Having read a few of the comments here and suffered the expected barrage of sarcasm from my friends in the pub at lunchtime I wondered if I watched a different game to others yesterday.

Living where I do I haven’t been to Selhurst for years so only watch the TV games and an occasional away game. I do though get to watch a lot of National League football, so I knew what to expect. These guys have learned all the modern tactics. They know how to block, press and not allow time on the ball. They know the dark arts too and are fit and often pretty tough. They know how to fight. What they lack are the skills to overcome these tactics so the games are often not full of skilled flowing football, but battles.

So I knew it would be tougher than some expected as they were bound to be highly motivated. Even with the weakened team we fielded we did have the skills to prevail and even if we weren’t able to show them all the time we created enough chances to win the game, but as so often recently they just missed. They scored one good goal through their only tactic of relying on set pieces and another lucky one through bad bounces and what looked to me to be an offside leg.

The TV commentators said the pitch was good and suited Palace. I disagree. I thought it produced a bounce that we consistently misjudged and a surface that bobbled. I also thought the officials were reacting as though they wanted to be part of history and let some challenges go that would not be allowed in the PL.

I still think that 99 times out of 100 with the team we put out we would have won the game. We were cruising until they scored. We only needed one of the near misses to have gone in. If the offside goal was ruled out and extra time played our fitness level would have shown.

It was just one of those games. Embarrassing. Disappointing. Not a disaster.
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totally agree the first tackle I said to my everton mate welcome to a real game of football , I laughed at our game , and he laughed at evertons pens , we had fun regardless of result
 
There’s something of a pattern in Glasner’s short time with us which support those who say conditions have to be just right for him to achieve results i.e the right players available and performing in tune with the system (obvious in a way I suppose).

When he joined in 2024, we won our first game v a terrible Burnley team but then went on an awful winless run that only ended when Olise and Eze were fit and firing again and system was properly honed.
The season ended with us winning 6 out of our last 7 games.

Last season we went on a terrible winless run of 8 games at the beginning of the season and some wanted Glasner out. We had a number of players unfit including Wharton after the summer internationals. JPM and Eze looked very jaded and Sarr and Kamada didn’t settle into the team at all. Lacroix made an unsteady start too and we couldn’t get a result on the back of some average performances.
Then it started to click as players returned to form and fitness and the system was flawlessly executed.

I’m hoping for the trick to repeated for a third time as Sarr, Munoz, Kamada, Nketiah and Lerma return , as Johnson settles into the team and as perhaps we bring another quality addition.

When Glasner joined Palace he was keen to point out that he was not a ‘magician’ and this is borne out by his time here.
If he has good players available adept at following his system we will do very well.
If those conditions are not met we see the performances and results we have seen over the last ten or so games.
 
The last few weeks have brought us back down to earth with a thump. Suddenly we’re not a team challenging for top 6 or 8. We’re what we’ve always been, well in recent years anyway, a mid table side. We’ve gone from FA cup and Charity shield winners to hoping we can stay clear of the dog fight at the bottom of the PL and maybe scrape through a few games in the Conference League and finish the season on a high with another final.
Glasner now holds the distinction of managing the side during our best and worst ever FA cup experiences and he too has gone from being a coach likely to become a top six manager to a mid table manager with a lot to learn about English football and one who will be lucky to replace Frank at Spurs than Amorin at United.
It’s been a rollercoaster year so far and we’re currently at the bottom of the big dipper hoping we have enough momentum when Sarr and Munez return to take us up to the next high before the season’s ride ends. Hopefully we get there and have something to celebrate at the end of the season whether that be a Conference League triumph, a Europa League place, or a top half finish, but either way it’s been an exciting ride and preferable to the daily commute we had before Glasner came along. We all hope he stays beyond this season but whatever happens I for one am grateful for the last 2 years and look forward to our club continuing to grow and progress year on year. Up the Palace!
 
Dogburger said:
All utd ex players and supporters have been banging on about in the last couple of days is getting a manager with the 'Utd identity' whatever that is . I'm pretty sure its not sitting in a structured defensive shape 3-4-3 with a work ethic ,two defensive midfielders and hitting teams on the break though .

Glasner is great for us ,suits our 'identity' and is perfect for a team that CAN win games though I'm not at all confident that he would be as well suited to a team that's EXPECTED to win games . (sorry for the big letters I just thought it needed highlighting )
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on our gaffer but all his success has come with teams like us on the fringes not the ones with unlimited resources .

I don't know if he stays at Palace but Utd's not the team or the club that would suit him IMO
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Does he really? All he does is stifle young maverick players to play in his system etc esse. Eze and Olise did it in spite of him not because of him
 
PatrickA said:
There’s something of a pattern in Glasner’s short time with us which support those who say conditions have to be just right for him to achieve results i.e the right players available and performing in tune with the system (obvious in a way I suppose).

When he joined in 2024, we won our first game v a terrible Burnley team but then went on an awful winless run that only ended when Olise and Eze were fit and firing again and system was properly honed.
The season ended with us winning 6 out of our last 7 games.

Last season we went on a terrible winless run of 8 games at the beginning of the season and some wanted Glasner out. We had a number of players unfit including Wharton after the summer internationals. JPM and Eze looked very jaded and Sarr and Kamada didn’t settle into the team at all. Lacroix made an unsteady start too and we couldn’t get a result on the back of some average performances.
Then it started to click as players returned to form and fitness and the system was flawlessly executed.

I’m hoping for the trick to repeated for a third time as Sarr, Munoz, Kamada, Nketiah and Lerma return , as Johnson settles into the team and as perhaps we bring another quality addition.

When Glasner joined Palace he was keen to point out that he was not a ‘magician’ and this is borne out by his time here.
If he has good players available adept at following his system we will do very well.
If those conditions are not met we see the performances and results we have seen over the last ten or so games.
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I think you are correct, But having to have exactly the right players to fit into your only one method of play doesn't make him good at managing when all is not 100%, we need him to sign a F*****g contract, or leave, so we can prepare for the future, i honestly don't mind which, but FFS make a decision.
 
The media now starting to point fingers at Glasner, seems the shine has become somewhat tarnished. The manner of this defeat, along with Leeds and the others will have definitely impacted Ollie's brand, so maybe he will think about returning to Europe as a bit of a reboot. If he goes, I will not be devastated, because we got lucky for a bit, but the real issue is how to maximize the limited resources we have. I was never a fan of his whining about squad depth whilst he never really gave Rak-Sakyi or Esse a chance to understudy Sarr and we play Uche out of position because of Glasner's rigidity in system and tactics. All this talk of him going to Man U suddenly looks done as well. I still wonder about that public spat with Guehi walking off the pitch last August after the Chelsea game; probably patched up, but still.....
 
MancunianEagle said:
Does he really? All he does is stifle young maverick players to play in his system etc esse. Eze and Olise did it in spite of him not because of him
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yes we get it you hate him , but really comparing Esse to the other two think you have a issue he his younger than the other 2 when he joined us by 2 to 3 years , simple he wasnt ready for the major step up
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
He is without the guy i would go for, loved by his fans and players, hated by everybody else, Getafe have a squad value of 68m euros, kept Getafe in La Liga since 2016, 442
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Funny you should mention him, clickbait are picking up on him as well . . .

www.caughtoffside.com

61-year-old in line to replace Glasner at Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace have identified Getafe manager Jose Bordalas as the potential replacement of Oliver Glasner at the club.
www.caughtoffside.com www.caughtoffside.com
 
radicalsteve said:
The media now starting to point fingers at Glasner, seems the shine has become somewhat tarnished. The manner of this defeat, along with Leeds and the others will have definitely impacted Ollie's brand, so maybe he will think about returning to Europe as a bit of a reboot. If he goes, I will not be devastated, because we got lucky for a bit, but the real issue is how to maximize the limited resources we have. I was never a fan of his whining about squad depth whilst he never really gave Rak-Sakyi or Esse a chance to understudy Sarr and we play Uche out of position because of Glasner's rigidity in system and tactics. All this talk of him going to Man U suddenly looks done as well. I still wonder about that public spat with Guehi walking off the pitch last August after the Chelsea game; probably patched up, but still.....
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I wrote in a post above: "All well and good when things are rosy but what happens when things get rough? Are you up to the challenge? We'll find out soon enough."
I think that Glasner is finding it difficult and is incapable of improvisation. So far he hasn't adapted to the downturn. His condescending and arrogant statements took him down a notch in my estimation, although they can be seen from a psychological angle as a shield to protect the ego. Simply put, his methodology has been found out, *even* by a club who we just had to turn up to beat...
 
Well, OG's had all the credit when results have been good and trophies won so it's normal to attract criticism after a result and performance like that at Macclesfield.

However, looking at that game in isolation, it shouldn't really have mattered in terms of team selection and tactics. A Premier League team, albeit not at full strength, should still have enough about them to beat non-league opposition.

A year ago is a real contrast to now. The team were just starting to click after a number of injuries. Eze, previously bang average, suddenly started to produce his best form and the system resembled a well oiled machine. This season the fine early form has gone, injuries have taken their toll and the manager is struggling to get the best out of available resources.

My hope for this season was that we would build on last seasons success. That doesn't make me ' entitled ' just wanting to keep the momentum going. In my opinion that simply hasn't happened. But at least we have a clearer run in the Conference League without FA cup games. Further squad enhancement wouldn't go amiss as well.
 
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