Newcastle vs. Crystal Palace match thread

We are far from the first smaller club to find that Europe is more of a punishment than a reward. It's too many games and, crucially but often overlooked, too much travel and too little recovery and training time, for the number of good top flight player we can realistically afford.

They'll have to dig in and pick up the odd point or three where they can for now until the schedule calms down, and until Sarr, Munoz, and Richards are back, as well as Kamada and Nketiah, the latter of whom must surely get a run of games in his preferred position, even if only to rest Mateta.

We've got a cushion between us and the bottom three, plus there is some abject shite down there that probably won't catch us no matter what. Mid table safety is eminently attainable and we have two cups to go for.

It'll pass.
 
Oh dear, our FA Cup win has created "entitled" fans, such a shame. Truth be told hardly anyone(of sound mind) thought we'd win this game due to all our injuries coming to bite us on the bum, we now have another one, &, might I say, injuries current predicament, a bigger loss than we know, 21 days minimum for concussion protocol.

Passing was woeful, from both sides, we created(imo) a hell of a lot of chances, but, yet again our failure to score hurt us. Either J's injury is getting worse, or he (really) wants out. Thought Pino & Johnson linked up well, considering. MOM for Palace, Hughes.
 
I'm surprised by so much negativity, although I understand it on the back of a defeat.
The game was reasonably even, but they took their chances, we didn't make the most out of ours.
I thought Wharton and Hughes did well in midfield and Mateta worked hard.
Lacroix, Guehi and Mitchell played to their usual decent standard .
More controversially I was pleased to see Pino more involved today, even if not much came off for him.He's busy and you can see he has a good football brain.
Whether he can cope with the physicality is another matter, but I think if you get him in the right areas and in space then he can create.

The real problem is the players replacing those injured/unavailable are not the same quailty.
This was always going to be an issue with a squad so lacking in depth of quality.
 
Inquisitive Aquila said:
The players we signed were all new to English football and three of them are relatively inexperienced, so they are bound to take time to adapt. As mentioned by external sources are squad is currently threadbare.
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Agreed the squad lacks depth and of course it will be more difficult with key players missing. But that is all the more reason to do something different to try and get results. At the moment we set up exactly the same way, with the same players in the same positions and get beaten in the same way. That’s not good enough from the manager. Maybe drop an extra man into midfield so we don’t keep getting overrun? Maybe play with an out and out winger to get some crosses in and challenge their centre halves? Maybe play a flat back four with full backs when we are missing our only recognised wing back? Maybe try two up top so JPM isn’t always isolated.

If you don’t have the players available who make your system work your job as a manager is to find a way to get results with the players you have. It won’t always work, it won’t be easy but that’s why managers are paid what they are.

Right now it’s like we are being managed by an AI programmed to do one thing.
 
PatrickA said:
I'm surprised by so much negativity, although I understand it on the back of a defeat.
The game was reasonably even, but they took their chances, we didn't make the most out of ours.
I thought Wharton and Hughes did well in midfield and Mateta worked hard.
Lacroix, Guehi and Mitchell played to their usual decent standard .
More controversially I was pleased to see Pino more involved today, even if not much came off for him.He's busy and you can see he has a good football brain.
Whether he can cope with the physicality is another matter, but I think if you get him in the right areas and in space then he can create.

The real problem is the players replacing those injured/unavailable are not the same quailty.
This was always going to be an issue with a squad so lacking in depth of quality.
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And anyway...cobblers to it. It's only a game.
 
Painter said:
Your wrong. Look at his stats, he wins far more challenges than he looses. He sets up more attacks from winning challenges than anyone else in the team.
Wharton is a top quality midfielder.
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Sure he is. But today he gave a way a stupid free kick, which lead to a goal and gave the ball away numerous times.

Too many mistakes throughout the team, especially in the second half. We were lucky to only lose by 2.
 
Frenchaigle said:
Terrible footballer is unfair .
Hughes buries the chance and it would be a different story .
Piño is this seasons Kamada .Gets slagged off regularly.
He will come good …trust
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It’s not right to say he’s a terrible footballer but it is right to say he is playing terribly for us. Did a good thing today in the pass for Hughes but then did lots and lots of bad things. Gave the ball away, passed to nobody, touch let him down, was very easily defended. I hope he comes good but right now he has a lot of parallels with Max Meyer
 
The first goal in particular was a poor goal to concede. Two headers won in the box, following on from the three headers won in the area when Gray scored for Tottenham.
Henderson earned his corn with several saves, Pope must have got frostbite.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
Henderson had a good game. Could have been many more goals conceded by a less heroic keeper.

We were fairly solid up until they scored...........then it all fell apart.
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They had some quality on the bench. Our bench cannot change a game.
 
PatrickA said:
I'm surprised by so much negativity, although I understand it on the back of a defeat.
The game was reasonably even, but they took their chances, we didn't make the most out of ours.
I thought Wharton and Hughes did well in midfield and Mateta worked hard.
Lacroix, Guehi and Mitchell played to their usual decent standard .
More controversially I was pleased to see Pino more involved today, even if not much came off for him.He's busy and you can see he has a good football brain.
Whether he can cope with the physicality is another matter, but I think if you get him in the right areas and in space then he can create.

The real problem is the players replacing those injured/unavailable are not the same quailty.
This was always going to be an issue with a squad so lacking in depth of quality.
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Pino was completely pants again!!

Good footballing brain? Like doing a dummy and giving it away cheaply when we had Newcastle pinned in their own box at the end?!! Guehi went ballistic at him.

I support all the players but I’ve had it with him at the moment. I hope he does come good but I’d like him to spend some time on the bench when Sarr is back. Maybe he will do better coming on as sub late in the game and having some sort of impact.
 
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