georgenorman
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Was the driver part of the conspiracy? Was he on a suicide mission?
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Stirlingsays
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Insane narratives being pushed by European governments that we are basically days away from war with Russia, is obviously a calculated and orchestrated campaign, likely directed by Ukraine, to terrify Europeans that they need to pay more, expect lower living standards, ignore the migrant invasion and hate the Russian because Trump is not buying into this any more.
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Hrolf The Ganger
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I doubt the driver would have been involved, but he was the perfect person to blame.
I see no point in speaking for or against any theory, since none of us can be sure of anything.
A conspiracy would be a bit rubbish if you could unravel it from your sofa.
My stance is that I'm certain that a number of other problematic people have been killed by the deep state using patsies, mind control and 'accidents'. Holding that belief means that you have to at least consider the possibility of conspiracy when yet another high profile problematic person dies. That doesn't mean that anything is certain. There is also likely to be very little evidence, if any, to prove conspiracy since it is either purposely hidden or doesn't exist.
Sometimes the 'Conspiracy' is so blindingly obvious, so blatantly in plain sight, it's difficult to comprehend how some still can't see it....
Frenchaigle
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See it from the point of view of a Russian stooge in the pay of the Kremlin ,yes it’s plain to see Russian propaganda .
Some on here obviously hate the west ,I suggest moving over there ,and try exercising your freedom of speech that has been so terribly eroded here.
Watch out though you better tow the party line .
To clarify for the those struggling to keep up: Not once have I (or anyone on here) suggested that they want to move to Russia, or fight for them. I (and others with similar views) have been very consistent. We favour Peace over War and don't trust our (current) leaders, politicians or our media.
On the other hand, several on here have suggested they want the war to continue, and even be escalated. They want to defeat Russia at any cost .....except a cost to themselves it seems, because guys there is a very simple solution for you Foreign Volunteers for Ukraine Armed Forces
Honestly, what are you waiting for? I'm amazed some of you are still here.
On the other hand, several on here have suggested they want the war to continue, and even be escalated. They want to defeat Russia at any cost .....except a cost to themselves it seems, because guys there is a very simple solution for you Foreign Volunteers for Ukraine Armed Forces
Honestly, what are you waiting for? I'm amazed some of you are still here.
ASCPFC
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That picture winds people up big time. It's just a joke - I've got worse. I have a Saddam one somewhere. It's actually a poster from the back of the Whitgift Shopping Centre. It's not even AI.
Hrolf The Ganger
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A lot of people certainly hate what our own governments are doing to the West. It is infuriating to hear how we are at threat from Russian invasion when our countries have been invaded for years by incompatible cultures thanks to their policies.
Why should anyone have any enthusiasm for defending Britain when Britain has already been taken from us piece by piece? Why should our children die for a country that will be mostly occupied by children from foreign lands in 100 years?
Spindle
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Right. Anyone else irrelevant that you want to quote?
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Stirlingsays
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The Financial Times and AFP report that EU countries have failed to agree on the use of Russian assets.
The money will be borrowed under the guarantees of the EU's general budget. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz explained that Ukraine will have to repay this loan only after Russia pays compensation to Kiev. If Russia refuses to compensate for the damage, the European Union will use frozen Russian assets to repay Ukraine's debt, said the chancellor.
The money will be borrowed under the guarantees of the EU's general budget. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz explained that Ukraine will have to repay this loan only after Russia pays compensation to Kiev. If Russia refuses to compensate for the damage, the European Union will use frozen Russian assets to repay Ukraine's debt, said the chancellor.
A lot of the financial people are going ballistic about this.
Why would non-Europeans ever keep their money in European banks ever again?
Road to ruin.
Frenchaigle
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Countries that don’t start wars would .
Switzerland, Cape Verde and Andorra will all be fine then.
Everyone else on the planet should be worried.
Stirlingsays
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Errr....Saudi is currently fighting a war.
As much as I view Russia as highly corrupt and I'm glad that they kicked them out of London....where they and lots of foreigners come to 'clean' their criminal money......Stealing their money from our banks is exactly that.
They didn't even do that in WW2.
If you can't see the problems for future investment.....Well, I don't know what to tell you.
It's as dim as feck......There's America saying, don't use the funds to Europe....And Europe ignoring.
Just where do you think the future investment will go?
Obviously America......the main winner of this war.....China and India second and third.
Frenchaigle
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There’s a difference with fighting a war and starting one.
USA say no because man baby Trump loves licking Putins backside ,and just wants his peace prize .
Also there’s no commission from that money for Trump and his gangster family .
The difference is a subjective matter of opinion in almost every case.
Do people honestly not see where this will lead?
India and Nigeria start freezing British assets as reparations for colonisation and slavery perhaps?
If you are British and support the stealing of Russian assets, then it might be a good idea to never invest anywhere else in the world ever again. Because what goes around, comes around.
Stirlingsays
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Is this how you think foreign policy should be decided?
If you hate Putin's regime, go get to a trench and fight it.
If you hate Trump.....Well, what's that got to do with the price of fish? I mean I have some sympathy with the hate of corrupt systems in America but that's the reality in both the US system and the EU are corrupt, Russia/Ukraine...it's how the world works.....democracy is kind of a myth and it's rule by the wealth class and always was.....Even in 1917 you had the overthrow of one corrupt class for an even worse class.....Elites will always rule for themselves.
Want a better ruling elite? Go read Plato's Republic.
In the meantime shouldn't what matters most to you be how this affects us? Playing chess taking note of where the pieces are on the board.....Not where you'd prefer them to be?
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