War in Ukraine

Stirlingsays said:
To win the war and push Russia out of Ukraine the US/Nato would have to be involved with troops fighting and dying on the ground.

They could properly do it with under fifty thousand casualties because of their airpower.

However, the nuclear option would probably be used......Just as I think Ukraine would have used it if they could.

It's an existential war for both of them and that's how they see it. We shouldn't be involved and my position is Orban''s position.

Another pointless war that has drained billions away from the people who need it.
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Don't agree. Air superiority would change the front, and behind the front too. Ukrainian troops would just advance. I know it sounds like artillery and the Somme but it's not the same.

Of course, this isn't going to happen.
 
McAhuna said:
You should research the Azov Brigade.
...and also the celebration of Stepan Bandera.

The Russians aren't stupid and they are sensitive about this sort of thing for some reason

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And our navy subs fly a skull and Crossbones. Who cares? They might be a nasty bunch, but they're fighting a nasty bunch.

You sound like a right russophile, and you're talking garbage about Western troops fighting. If it came to that it'll be because we've been attacked. Stop making s*** up.
 
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Russia officially says the city of Kupyansk, in the north is captured.

From what I'm hearing they have most of Pokrovsk in the Donbas but that there are numerous encircled Ukrainian troops still inside the city, so that doesn't count as captured as far as I'm concerned. The fall could come any day now.

Ukraine has fought tooth and nail for both cities.
 
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