The bbc, again.

[Teddy Eagle]

That was one journalist going too far to try to obtain a story he passionately believed was in the public interest. Something many journalists have done. Not always on genuine public interest stories either. The BBC’s error was made by the individual who decided to keep the false documents secret. When it became known higher up the BBC swift action followed.

This kind of thing happens with investigative journalism. Getting your hands dirty whilst you dig for the truth isn’t unusual. What is unusual is that the high standards at the BBC don’t allow such things to remain buried.

Of course.

• The Public: The BBC publicly covered up the deception for years, which led the Dyson inquiry to conclude they had "conspired, on a vast scale, to deceive the public".

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The fact that you insist on defending them at every turn, even when they've covered up for child molesters, means they've mugged you off. And you can't see it. So...most amusing.

Who has covered up for child molesters? The BBC, along with many others, were fooled by some for a very long time.

All they were guilty of was missed opportunities to realise all wasn’t as it should have been. Something we have all learned from.

You only want to see bad, when the overwhelming picture is of good people trying to do a good and honest job. Not the political witch-hunt we see elsewhere.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Of course.

• The Public: The BBC publicly covered up the deception for years, which led the Dyson inquiry to conclude they had "conspired, on a vast scale, to deceive the public".

This is the BBC’s own report on this. Whilst they are pretty hard on themselves, and on some of the people then in positions of responsibility, it’s also fair to say they didn’t entirely agree with Lord Dyson:-

Martin Bashir: Inquiry criticises BBC over 'deceitful' Diana interview

Martin Bashir's 1995 interview was obtained using fake documents and then not properly investigated, an inquiry finds.

www.bbc.co.uk

It’s much more thorough than your tiny extract above. Extracts, as established in recent days, can be taken out of context. What’s your source?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Who has covered up for child molesters? The BBC, along with many others, were fooled by some for a very long time.

All they were guilty of was missed opportunities to realise all wasn’t as it should have been. Something we have all learned from.

You only want to see bad, when the overwhelming picture is of good people trying to do a good and honest job. Not the political witch-hunt we see elsewhere.

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

'Serious failings' at BBC let Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall go unchecked

Damning report by Dame Janet Smith finds ‘macho culture’ of sexism at corporation led employees to keep quiet about concerns

www.theguardian.com

 

[Teddy Eagle]

This is the BBC’s own report on this. Whilst they are pretty hard on themselves, and on some of the people then in positions of responsibility, it’s also fair to say they didn’t entirely agree with Lord Dyson:-

Martin Bashir: Inquiry criticises BBC over 'deceitful' Diana interview

Martin Bashir's 1995 interview was obtained using fake documents and then not properly investigated, an inquiry finds.

www.bbc.co.uk

It’s much more thorough than your tiny extract above. Extracts, as established in recent days, can be taken out of context. What’s your source?

My source is the link posted. From the BBC the most trusted news source in the world when it suits you.
Isn't it strange that in this instance an extract doesn't suffice whereas with Trump's speech it does.

 

[HKOwen]

The fact that you insist on defending them at every turn, even when they've covered up for child molesters, means they've mugged you off. And you can't see it. So...most amusing.

It's not about being mugged off, it's about an old man's constant need for attention

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

My source is the link posted. From the BBC the most trusted news source in the world when it suits you.
Isn't it strange that in this instance an extract doesn't suffice whereas with Trump's speech it does.

The name of the source isn’t enough! I want to read the article in its entirety.

Just as Trump’s speech needs to be considered in its entirety. If you are only considering the speech. Just as the Panorama programme needs to be considered in its entirety. If you are only considering the programme.

No extract taken on its own is enough. It never suffices and isn’t the least strange.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

The name of the source isn’t enough! I want to read the article in its entirety.

Just as Trump’s speech needs to be considered in its entirety. If you are only considering the speech. Just as the Panorama programme needs to be considered in its entirety. If you are only considering the programme.

No extract taken on its own is enough. It never suffices and isn’t the least strange.

The Dyson Report is 127 pages long. If you want to Google it, download it and read it that's your choice.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

'Serious failings' at BBC let Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall go unchecked

Damning report by Dame Janet Smith finds ‘macho culture’ of sexism at corporation led employees to keep quiet about concerns

www.theguardian.com

I guess if you muck raked through the files of any major institution over the last 100 years, you could cherry pick out endless examples of cultural attitudes towards, or held by, any number of minority groups at the time. Attitudes thought normal, or at least defendable, at the time but which aren’t today.

You might not remember the days when being homosexual was not only illegal but completely socially unacceptable, having a black skin was threatening, being mentally ill meant you were locked away out of sight and kept like an animal. Imagine such matters being discussed within companies. It wouldn’t be pretty.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The Dyson Report is 127 pages long. If you want to Google it, download it and read it that's your choice.

I am sure I could.

You though didn’t extract a phrase from the Dyson report. You extracted a phrase from a journalist’s article on the report.

It’s that article that needs to be referenced so the phrase can be read in its context.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I am sure I could.

You though didn’t extract a phrase from the Dyson report. You extracted a phrase from a journalist’s article on the report.

It’s that article that needs to be referenced so the phrase can be read in its context.

No I didn't. It was an AI overview of the conclusions. Read the report then you'll have all the context you need.

 

[Common Sense Club]

I guess if you muck raked through the files of any major institution over the last 100 years, you could cherry pick out endless examples of cultural attitudes towards, or held by, any number of minority groups at the time. Attitudes thought normal, or at least defendable, at the time but which aren’t today.

You might not remember the days when being homosexual was not only illegal but completely socially unacceptable, having a black skin was threatening, being mentally ill meant you were locked away out of sight and kept like an animal. Imagine such matters being discussed within companies. It wouldn’t be pretty.

being mentally ill meant you were locked away out of sight and kept like an animal.

Quite a few of us might prefer this rather than having innocents stabbed and slashed to death instead...

 

[silvertop]

Trump's $5 billion lawsuit threat against BBC comes amid spate of legal wins over media companies

President Donald Trump has said he'll sue the BBC for up to $5 billion, and he comes with a track record of high-figure settlements from media companies.

www.foxnews.com

An interesting article by Fox News.

Now we are talking impartial!

 

[eaglesdare]

Now we are talking impartial!

Do US citizens fund Fox news? Are they legally required to pay tax or have a tv licence?

 

[silvertop]

Do US citizens fund Fox news? Are they legally required to pay tax or have a tv licence?

Oh, I thought we we were talking partiality.

No. But they have a reason to want the opposition knocked out.

Anything from Murdoch on the BBC can be discounted.

 

[eaglesdare]

Oh, I thought we we were talking partiality.

No. But they have a reason to want the opposition knocked out.

Anything from Murdoch on the BBC can be discounted.

The BBC can be as partial as it likes. For decades they have been safe in the knowledge the bailiffs will still collect 169 quid (or however much it was) from every household whether they watch it or not.

 

[becky]

Oh dear, another apology issued........ after 14 years they still can't seem to understand that she's married to William....

BBC News, references to Catherine, Princess of Wales, BBC Two and BBC News Channel, 11 November 2025 | Contact the BBC

We received complaints from people unhappy that we didn’t use the Princess of Wales’s correct title during our coverage of Armistice Day.

www.bbc.co.uk

apparently, it was the live female reporter on-site at the National Memorial Arboretum, and she called her Kate Middleton several times........ so what exactly is the point of those earpieces?

 

[Runningman]

Oh dear, another apology issued........ after 14 years they still can't seem to understand that she's married to William....

BBC News, references to Catherine, Princess of Wales, BBC Two and BBC News Channel, 11 November 2025 | Contact the BBC

We received complaints from people unhappy that we didn’t use the Princess of Wales’s correct title during our coverage of Armistice Day.

www.bbc.co.uk

apparently, it was the live female reporter on-site at the National Memorial Arboretum, and she called her Kate Middleton several times........ so what exactly is the point of those earpieces?

I think we can only conclude that they are being deliberately disrespectful….

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Oh dear, another apology issued........ after 14 years they still can't seem to understand that she's married to William....

BBC News, references to Catherine, Princess of Wales, BBC Two and BBC News Channel, 11 November 2025 | Contact the BBC

We received complaints from people unhappy that we didn’t use the Princess of Wales’s correct title during our coverage of Armistice Day.

www.bbc.co.uk

apparently, it was the live female reporter on-site at the National Memorial Arboretum, and she called her Kate Middleton several times........ so what exactly is the point of those earpieces?

What a great insult. "Don't be an earpiece".

 

[Spiderman]

Oh dear, another apology issued........ after 14 years they still can't seem to understand that she's married to William....

BBC News, references to Catherine, Princess of Wales, BBC Two and BBC News Channel, 11 November 2025 | Contact the BBC

We received complaints from people unhappy that we didn’t use the Princess of Wales’s correct title during our coverage of Armistice Day.

www.bbc.co.uk

apparently, it was the live female reporter on-site at the National Memorial Arboretum, and she called her Kate Middleton several times........ so what exactly is the point of those earpieces?

Presumably only useful if, the person on the other end gives a s***