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Just as well I am not then.

I am commenting on subjects that interest me and correcting what I regard as falsehoods.

You have no need to read, or answer, if they distress you.

Since the ignore button thankfully I can select just how much lefty lunacy I subject myself to.

If it's in small amounts I can find some amusement in the posting 'progressive' who moved to conservative Cornwall..........apparently Reform are leading in the polls....oh how delicious that one will be.
 
Since the ignore button thankfully I can select just how much lefty lunacy I subject myself to.

If it's in small amounts I can find some amusement in the posting 'progressive' who moved to conservative Cornwall..........apparently Reform are leading in the polls....oh how delicious that one will be.
...until they are in power!
 
You swamp these boards 24/7 with liberal, left apologising BS. Not to mention sympathising with grooming gangs and sex criminals.
That’s total bs!

I haven’t counted but I doubt my post count here outnumbers all others, which it would need to to meet a “swamp” threshold. I answer bs, not post it. Don’t read, or respond, if you feel swamped by it. That choice is entirely your own.

I don’t have, and never suggested any, sympathy for grooming gangs or sex criminals. Not only is that a preposterous idea it’s also an insult that I would never dream of making to my worst enemy. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
Since the ignore button thankfully I can select just how much lefty lunacy I subject myself to.

If it's in small amounts I can find some amusement in the posting 'progressive' who moved to conservative Cornwall..........apparently Reform are leading in the polls....oh how delicious that one will be.
Reform are now the biggest party on Cornwall Council, showing protest votes can happen anywhere. However, demonstrating the way that things are going to progress elsewhere, they don’t run the Council. A coalition of other parties, and independents, does, united by a common determination to keep the hard right out of power.

Add to that the fact that Reform’s deputy leader has resigned his membership and now sits as an independent, stating his views and that of the party no longer align.
 
Reform are now the biggest party on Cornwall Council, showing protest votes can happen anywhere. However, demonstrating the way that things are going to progress elsewhere, they don’t run the Council. A coalition of other parties, and independents, does, united by a common determination to keep the hard right out of power.

Add to that the fact that Reform’s deputy leader has resigned his membership and now sits as an independent, stating his views and that of the party no longer align.

'Hard right'.....what a joke.....I do wish the way lefties and establishment shills like yourself describe the right actually reflected reality.....but you really talk out of your backsides on it.

Reform's leadership are Thatcherites.....hard right my arse cheek! So essentially they are civic nationalists and neoliberals. They talk social conservatism but that's mostly performative and the same level of social conservativism that Thatcherism had....in effect not that much.

But at least it means that the government wouldn't hate people like me and wouldn't support some of the destructive degenerate sh1te this country has celebrated for about thirty years.
 
'Hard right'.....what a joke.....I do wish the way lefties and establishment shills like yourself describe the right actually reflected reality.....but you really talk out of your backsides on it.

Reform's leadership are Thatcherites.....hard right my arse cheek! So essentially they are civic nationalists and neoliberals. They talk social conservatism but that's mostly performative and the same level of social conservativism that Thatcherism had....in effect not that much.

But at least it means that the government wouldn't hate people like me and wouldn't support some of the destructive degenerate sh1te this country has celebrated for about thirty years.
Hardly. They are Brexit which, at its absolute core, opposes free movement.

Free movement of all economic actors is a central piece of Thatcherism.

And just to highlight the difficulty of defining left and right, you identify Wisbech as "lefty", whereas he has all but one election voted Tory. I doubt there is a single genuine union type who would embrace him as a comrade, yet you lump him in with them as one inseparable collective.

Definition has been a central characteristic of the poles of political spectrum over the centuries. And it is usually accompanied by despotism. Sent to "Rehabilitation" camps for not being sufficiently Bolshevik. "Disappeared" for not being sufficiently nationalist etc.
 
Hardly. They are Brexit which, at its absolute core, opposes free movement.

Free movement of all economic actors is a central piece of Thatcherism.

That's just not true when it came to immigration, which was the central reason for most people voting for Brexit and why the sense of betrayal against the Conservative party is so strong as to possibly destroy it.

While Thatcher supported market-driven labour flexibility, her government maintained strict immigration controls, prioritizing national sovereignty over unrestricted labour movement.

Any suggestion otherwise is just not accurate and doesn't reflect the truth about Thatcherism.

And just to highlight the difficulty of defining left and right, you identify Wisbech as "lefty", whereas he has all but one election voted Tory. I doubt there is a single genuine union type who would embrace him as a comrade, yet you lump him in with them as one inseparable collective.

All his social policies are progressive and social liberal.

Now you may call that a form of conservative but....what is that 'conserving' exactly other than his bank account (he's only economically conservative)...You implying that a progressive can be a conservative is paradoxical in my view.

Frankly I don't consider social liberals as Conservatives....If they don't like the left's economic vandalism then they should join the comical Lib Dems.


Definition has been a central characteristic of the poles of political spectrum over the centuries. And it is usually accompanied by despotism. Sent to "Rehabilitation" camps for not being sufficiently Bolshevik. "Disappeared" for not being sufficiently nationalist etc.

That has never happened in this country outside of war time so that's just the typical fear mongering we see daily now from anyone opposed to the right wing. I'm far more right wing than most in public life and you would certainly not have seen me supporting that on these forums. In fact the defence of civil liberties have been far stronger on the right than the left......It's the left who arrest and detain thousands of people a year for 'thought crimes' or hurty words that, in the past, people would ignore at the pub......Now the left deliberately ruin lives.

So spare me.
 
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Reform are now the biggest party on Cornwall Council, showing protest votes can happen anywhere. However, demonstrating the way that things are going to progress elsewhere, they don’t run the Council. A coalition of other parties, and independents, does, united by a common determination to keep the hard right out of power.

Add to that the fact that Reform’s deputy leader has resigned his membership and now sits as an independent, stating his views and that of the party no longer align.
Considering they went from 0 seats to 28 in one election they might be hard to keep out. Unless democracy works differently in Cornwall.
Why are they gaining in popularity there? Their usual policy wouldn't seem to apply.
 
Reform are now the biggest party on Cornwall Council, showing protest votes can happen anywhere. However, demonstrating the way that things are going to progress elsewhere, they don’t run the Council. A coalition of other parties, and independents, does, united by a common determination to keep the hard right out of power.

Add to that the fact that Reform’s deputy leader has resigned his membership and now sits as an independent, stating his views and that of the party no longer align.
Are you actually labelling reform voters as being far right? Just to clarify your statement.
 
That’s total bs!

I haven’t counted but I doubt my post count here outnumbers all others, which it would need to to meet a “swamp” threshold. I answer bs, not post it. Don’t read, or respond, if you feel swamped by it. That choice is entirely your own.

I don’t have, and never suggested any, sympathy for grooming gangs or sex criminals. Not only is that a preposterous idea it’s also an insult that I would never dream of making to my worst enemy. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You post far more than anyone else, and mostly contrarian BS for trolling purposes.

And you should be ashamed of yourself for sympathising with grooming gangs and other sex criminals.
 
Hardly. They are Brexit which, at its absolute core, opposes free movement.

Free movement of all economic actors is a central piece of Thatcherism.

And just to highlight the difficulty of defining left and right, you identify Wisbech as "lefty", whereas he has all but one election voted Tory. I doubt there is a single genuine union type who would embrace him as a comrade, yet you lump him in with them as one inseparable collective.

Definition has been a central characteristic of the poles of political spectrum over the centuries. And it is usually accompanied by despotism. Sent to "Rehabilitation" camps for not being sufficiently Bolshevik. "Disappeared" for not being sufficiently nationalist etc.
He’s probably voted Lib Dem for the last couple of decades. With the village people.
 
'Hard right'.....what a joke.....I do wish the way lefties and establishment shills like yourself describe the right actually reflected reality.....but you really talk out of your backsides on it.

Reform's leadership are Thatcherites.....hard right my arse cheek! So essentially they are civic nationalists and neoliberals. They talk social conservatism but that's mostly performative and the same level of social conservativism that Thatcherism had....in effect not that much.

But at least it means that the government wouldn't hate people like me and wouldn't support some of the destructive degenerate sh1te this country has celebrated for about thirty years.
You would think that though wouldn’t you! Whilst they mimic some of Thatcher’s attitudes they are much more populist and nationalist than she ever was. Reform are strongly anti-immigration and anti-establishment. They certainly are not centre-right, nor are they traditional right, which really describes the Tories.

So is it fair to call them far-right? Some might, but whilst there are still those who go even further, I wouldn’t. So hard-right seems entirely appropriate.

I have little to no interest in how a Reform government would treat people like you. I do though have a great deal of interest in the damage they would do to the country as a whole. I do not want to see us going down the same path as the USA under Trump.
 
Are you actually labelling reform voters as being far right? Just to clarify your statement.
Of course not.

I am labelling the Party itself as hard right. I am centre right. The Tories are traditional right. Orban is far right. Reform aren’t that bad. So hard right seems correct.

Those who vote for them don’t necessarily share their philosophy. They want change. They want an end to illegal immigration. They are tired of the traditional parties and are voting for the lure of promises that can never be met.
 
Of course not.

I am labelling the Party itself as hard right. I am centre right. The Tories are traditional right. Orban is far right. Reform aren’t that bad. So hard right seems correct.

Those who vote for them don’t necessarily share their philosophy. They want change. They want an end to illegal immigration. They are tired of the traditional parties and are voting for the lure of promises that can never be met.
You will see on Nov 26th another reason these labour s*** c**** need removal. That aside you did though put reform in the earlier post and called them hard right. Then said coalitions are formed to keep them out. What’s the difference between far or hard right ?
 
'Hard right'.....what a joke.....

Hard Right and Far Right. Today, its anybody who esteems the earned-quid over the handout-quid. And anybody who takes exception to a class of long-term unemployed who live in nice houses and drive nicer cars than minimum-wage workers. More fecund than those of us who graft everyday.

And we take exception to an anti social-skanger class that can live forever on handouts and never contribute anything positive to society. Its a problem only really happening in the decadent West, especially Western Europe. Latin America, India etc look at us and marvel at how naive we are. How we organise society based on looney attempts to impose equality by force. Like giving a Premier league contract to a fella with only one leg.

Radical views indeed. Clearly shocking to anybody in Cornwall ?


The rise of Trump & Brexit is symptomatic of a general malaise with a rotten Parliament. Just look at the record levels of anger with Labour & the Tories in the UK.
 
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Watch out. If you complain too much, you might end up in jail. 😐. That's why Starmers Government is in decline, they're not listening.
Meanwhile in the US of A, Trump is riding high in the polls
 

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