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The IRA collaborated with Germany. They either represent Ireland, or they do not.
 
Yup all the hand wringing , time and effort to free the scrote and he goes and tries to hug a tree at 80 mph.
Fleeing from the police?

Decades ago I was a juror in coroner's court, very similar circumstances, we found death by misadventure, the relatives and friends of the deceased went berserk.

Marwaan Mohamed Huseen, the driver was quite absent minded , he forgot to gei insurance and a driving licence.

Luckily no innocent people were killed or injured
 
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In other news, maybe the mother knew something that we did not and was just trying to protect her daughter from a wrongun

Very disappointing.

I felt sorry for the young lad at the time. He was 18 she was 17, at that age I doubt I would have checked what the local laws were. I did think her mother was wrong to leave the country and then report him.

However as you say it maybe that her mother knew he was trouble (mothers tend to). I just hope out of this sorry mess that mother and daughter are still on talking terms.
 
Recent then, remember it well.

100 years after that the Irish sided with Hitler. Bastards
incorrect. It was only about 10% of the Irish wanted Hitler to win - often people who previously had family members killed by The Brits - such as the 1920 'Black & Tans'. And following the Potato Famine Genocide, Cromwells Genocides, 700 years of occupation, ethnic & cultural cleansing, an Apartheid Island with brutal Penal-Laws, and the brutal punishments of the 1916 Easter Rising....its all fairly easy to understand.

Very many Irish fought FOR the Brits in WWII......and they did so voluntarily , without being drafted. And very many Irish who were closer to 'neutral' worked in the munitions factories in places like Coventry. None of them worked factories in Dresden....which also got flattened by arial bombardments.

And to answer your comment : the Brits sided with Stalin. Commie Bastards.



Immigration : would our newcomers fight to defend this Nation ?
 
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incorrect. It was only about 10% of the Irish wanted Hitler to win - often people who previously had family members killed by The Brits - such as the 1920 'Black & Tans'. And following the Potato Famine Genocide, Cromwells Genocides, 700 years of occupation, ethnic & cultural cleansing, an Apartheid Island with brutal Penal-Laws, and the brutal punishments of the 1916 Easter Rising....its all fairly easy to understand.

Very many Irish fought FOR the Brits in WWII......and they did so voluntarily , without being drafted. And very many Irish who were closer to 'neutral' worked in the munitions factories in places like Coventry. None of them worked factories in Dresden....which also got flattened by arial bombardments.

And to answer your comment : the Brits sided with Stalin. Commie Bastards.



Immigration : would our newcomers fight to defend this Nation ?

This is a fair assessment overall. I would say the genocide is debated by historians as it was more catastrophic British mismanagement and neglect and the alliance with Stalin was tactical not ideological (obviously 😏).

I do find it odd that De Valera offered condolences to the German embassy after Hitler's death.
 
incorrect. It was only about 10% of the Irish wanted Hitler to win - often people who previously had family members killed by The Brits - such as the 1920 'Black & Tans'. And following the Potato Famine Genocide, Cromwells Genocides, 700 years of occupation, ethnic & cultural cleansing, an Apartheid Island with brutal Penal-Laws, and the brutal punishments of the 1916 Easter Rising....its all fairly easy to understand.

Very many Irish fought FOR the Brits in WWII......and they did so voluntarily , without being drafted. And very many Irish who were closer to 'neutral' worked in the munitions factories in places like Coventry. None of them worked factories in Dresden....which also got flattened by arial bombardments.

And to answer your comment : the Brits sided with Stalin. Commie Bastards.



Immigration : would our newcomers fight to defend this Nation ?
I wouldn't normally argue with an Irishman about Irish history, but wasn't Cromwell's assault on Ireland a response to the massacre of Protestant settlers, and therefore, not really a genocide?

If one were feeling brave, one could liken it to the response by Israel to the October massacre.
However, I'm not going to press the point.
 
Just like the Scots, Hollyweird will only ever show the English atrocities.

A more balanced view of Anglo Irish history (2000 years) will show that the Irish interfered in England and Scotland almost as much as the English did in Ireland.

They say history is written by the victors but sometimes the narrative is written by the victims. I am not excusing England's conquest of Ireland just pointing out that there were plenty of Irish going the other way.
 
Just like the Scots, Hollyweird will only ever show the English atrocities.

A more balanced view of Anglo Irish history (2000 years) will show that the Irish interfered in England and Scotland almost as much as the English did in Ireland.

They say history is written by the victors but sometimes the narrative is written by the victims. I am not excusing England's conquest of Ireland just pointing out that there were plenty of Irish going the other way.
Like kidnapping and enslaving Patrick.
 
"In Sub-Roman Britain, the Scoti of Ireland raided and colonized the western Scottish and Welsh coastlines"

939 Kingdom of Dublin invaded Northumbia

The Scots and the Irish often helped each other out over the centuries.

Not saying what England did was correct but we were just better at invading other people's countries.
Notice the invasion urge is Post Norman. Take the French away and England would be rural idyl with us chewing on straw by haywains.
 
I wouldn't normally argue with an Irishman about Irish history, but wasn't Cromwell's assault on Ireland a response to the massacre of Protestant settlers, and therefore, not really a genocide?

If one were feeling brave, one could liken it to the response by Israel to the October massacre.
However, I'm not going to press the point.
yes Eagle, you have a valid point. My reply is that Catholic ireland hates Oliver Cromwell for all the persecutions. And yet often forgets that he persecuted half of England too.

regarding your point....persecutions of Prod settlers.....there was some , but there was huge spin and lies about babies being BBQ'ed and other hyperbole. Reminds me of the Brits going to bloody War over a sailors damaged Ear.

 

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