Israel v Hamas

[Wisbech Eagle]

Some familiar antisemitics in the list of shame. Apart from Greece, the governments are either left leaning or Muslim. Shocker. Shows it's purely ideological.

• Ireland
• Maldives
• Iran
• Spain
• Norway
• Greece
• South Africa
• Kyrgyzstan
• Chile
• Brazil
• Botswana
• Indonesia
• Malaysia
• Pakistan
• Kuwait
• Cuba

You falsely categorise anyone opposed to the current Israeli government as antisemitic. If you don’t please identify which countries you believe aren’t but do oppose that government. Left leaning doesn’t mean anything in this context. Opposing Israel’s hard right policies is what any normal democratic government will do.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You falsely categorise anyone opposed to the current Israeli government as antisemitic. If you don’t please identify which countries you believe aren’t but do oppose that government. Left leaning doesn’t mean anything in this context. Opposing Israel’s hard right policies is what any normal democratic government will do.

Even though Netanyahu was elected by popular vote.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Just to add, if walkouts were just about war crimes or civilian deaths, then they should have happened during speeches by Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and Syria. They did not so shows it's just political theatre.

It was certainly that. Designed to increase pressure. Why not the others? Priorities and to avoid distraction perhaps?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Even though Netanyahu was elected by popular vote.

Hardly. He stitched together a coalition on the right, which has held him by the sphericals ever since. The opposition gained far more seats than his party but wouldn’t deal with the far right. He did. As he faces corruption charges and, probably, jail time, when he leaves office he has a strong personal motivation to placate the right. Hence no amount of pressure from anywhere, including the USA, is going to divert him.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Hardly. He stitched together a coalition on the right, which has held him by the sphericals ever since. The opposition gained far more seats than his party but wouldn’t deal with the far right. He did. As he faces corruption charges and, probably, jail time, when he leaves office he has a strong personal motivation to placate the right. Hence no amount of pressure from anywhere, including the USA, is going to divert him.

So he wasn't elected?

 

[Spindle]

Just to add, if walkouts were just about war crimes or civilian deaths, then they should have happened during speeches by Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and Syria. They did not so shows it's just political theatre.

Walkouts are because they hate Jews, applauded by other anti-semites

 

[Spindle]

You falsely categorise anyone opposed to the current Israeli government as antisemitic. If you don’t please identify which countries you believe aren’t but do oppose that government. Left leaning doesn’t mean anything in this context. Opposing Israel’s hard right policies is what any normal democratic government will do.

Er, he listed Iran in there. You're telling me that a nation that has pledged to wipe out the Jews is not anti-semetic. Your denial is hilarious.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Er, he listed Iran in there. You're telling me that a nation that has pledged to wipe out the Jews is not anti-semetic. Your denial is hilarious.

Iran? Surely not.

Iran: Over 1,000 people executed as authorities step up horrifying assault on right to life

Iranian authorities have executed over 1,000 people thus far in 2025, the highest number of yearly executions in Iran that the organization has recorded in at least 15 years, said Amnesty International. The organization is calling on the Iranian authorities to establish an immediate moratorium...

www.amnesty.org

 

[Spindle]

Iran? Surely not.

Iran: Over 1,000 people executed as authorities step up horrifying assault on right to life

Iranian authorities have executed over 1,000 people thus far in 2025, the highest number of yearly executions in Iran that the organization has recorded in at least 15 years, said Amnesty International. The organization is calling on the Iranian authorities to establish an immediate moratorium...

www.amnesty.org

Genocide surely? Where's Saturn and the UN to clarify this for us....

 

[silvertop]

Even though Netanyahu was elected by popular vote.

That's kind of the point.

 

[silvertop]

You falsely categorise anyone opposed to the current Israeli government as antisemitic. If you don’t please identify which countries you believe aren’t but do oppose that government. Left leaning doesn’t mean anything in this context. Opposing Israel’s hard right policies is what any normal democratic government will do.

I have no argument with Penge on Iran. Policy and conduct.

But he talks of antisemites in plural so which ones are "familiar "

 

[Penge Eagle]

I have no argument with Penge on Iran. Policy and conduct.

But he talks of antisemites in plural so which ones are "familiar "

The cover for antisemites from you and others is pretty bad from.

So you really think the likes of Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia, Kuwait or Indonesia don't have a problem with Jews? It's all been documented.

 

[silvertop]

The cover for antisemites from you and others is pretty bad from.

So you really think the likes of Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia, Kuwait or Indonesia don't have a problem with Jews? It's all been documented.

Fair enough unless (Iran aside) documented as anti Israel rather than antisemitic. Different.

That said Jews and Muslims have been in conflicts for centuries. Not really relevant to my attitude to Israel's conduct right now.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Fair enough unless (Iran aside) documented as anti Israel rather than antisemitic. Different.

That said Jews and Muslims have been in conflicts for centuries. Not really relevant to my attitude to Israel's conduct right now.

You seem to find it pretty easy to dismiss or play down antisemitism.

The Pakistan passport literally says it's not valid for the only Jewish state. Kuwait's Israel boycott law: "All natural and legal persons are prohibited from establishing direct or indirect relations with the Zionist entity." Malaysia’s former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad had said: "I am glad to be labelled antisemitic. How can I not be, when Jews are so often the cause of problems?"

"Conflict for centuries" is a bit of an oversimplification. Do we judge Britain's conduct in conflicts in the Middle East on Christian-Muslim wars?

 

[Spindle]

Imagine excusing those nations

 

[HKOwen]

A singularity unpleasant and troubling attempt at humour.

Not in any way humour, just highlighting your pro Hamas stance

 

[chris123]

I want to stick up for Indonesia I used to work there regularly. Very moderate, pray 5 times a day, but go for a beer.

 

[HKOwen]

I want to stick up for Indonesia I used to work there regularly. Very moderate, pray 5 times a day, but go for a beer.

Indo is good place to visit, golf in Bogor is great, why do you need to stick up for them? Many dry areas but not a problem. Best civil service money can buy

 

[HKOwen]

The cover for antisemites from you and others is pretty bad from.

So you really think the likes of Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia, Kuwait or Indonesia don't have a problem with Jews? It's all been documented.

Indonesia is fine, I know Jewish guy who has lived in Jakarta for decades and no problems.

History of the Jews in Indonesia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[chris123]

Indo is good place to visit, golf in Bogor is great, why do you need to stick up for them? Many dry areas but not a problem. Best civil service money can buy

Yes a great nasi goreng at most of the courses, also played over in Bali in the extinct volcano which is Hindu