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either you are being very thick or you are being ironic as both the Trump shooter and the guy who killed Charlie K were not 'left' leaning, a point conveniently being ignore by those trying to promote left and right division across the US
What were they, 'One Nation Tories'?
Kirk's killer carved anti-fascist slogans on his bullet casings.
Trump's attempted killer donated to a Democrat pressure group.
It's pretty clear who is very thick if you don't think they were of the Left.
 
What were they, 'One Nation Tories'?
Kirk's killer carved anti-fascist slogans on his bullet casings.
Trump's attempted killer donated to a Democrat pressure group.
It's pretty clear who is very thick if you don't think they were of the Left.
I'm not 100% convinced about the Trump shooter. I see him as someone who wanted the fame of an assassination.
The Kirk killer is certainly left wing, however, and the agenda to push him as right wing by media and on social media has managed to cloud a clear issue. One could argue that the media have achieved what they wanted in that respect.
 
I'm not 100% convinced about the Trump shooter. I see him as someone who wanted the fame of an assassination.
The Kirk killer is certainly left wing, however, and the agenda to push him as right wing by media and on social media has managed to cloud a clear issue. One could argue that the media have achieved what they wanted in that respect.
I think that all they have achieved is to show, once again, what lying toe-rags they all are.
 
Most of the left complaining about what Trump is doing on speech cheered like hell when Alex Jones was sued to closure getting a $1.5bn court order for his speech.

Without Musk being upset by the obvious targeting he wouldn't have a voice anymore.

The left cancelled target after target

They used exactly the same argument of consequences for speech that the Republicans used.

I remember that time on Hol.....You know how many people on the left or centre spoke up for closing down Alex Jones or any of the others the Democrats went after?

None.
 
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So famous that I have no idea what you are talking about. As I have been watching Trump since well before he first appeared on reality TV that’s surprising.

Wtf? I don't believe you
 
Do you not see the irony of the right trying to get people “cancelled”, or fired, for holding opinions they don’t like? They are the ones who have got so wound up about “cancel culture” and the alleged erosion of free speech!

Anyone who makes remarks intended to incite division or cause actual harm deserve to lose their job. However many are being targeted just for holding another opinion. Like this is!

Jimmy Kimmel has lost his show after pressure from the authorities. He sent condolences to Charlie Kirk’s family and has spoken about the evil of division in society. He also mocks Trump and lays a lot of the blame at his door. Trump doesn’t tolerate criticism, has called for his sacking and posted celebratory comments last night. Whilst here! That’s sick!

I didn’t say that Patel represents the views of the FBI as a group. I said, and maintain, that he is allowing his partisanship to interfere in his job, thus making the FBI approach politically compromised.

I don’t have a mate called Bob. Nor do I have the slightest interest in the political views of any pop singer, especially the current ones who I know little to nothing about other than some headlines.

Of course any individual IDF pilot following orders and doing their duty doesn’t represent the IDF. Nor do the commanders, some of whom are critical. It’s their political masters who hold the responsibility.

Irony? Yeah I see the irony, but not like you see it. You make it sound as if the right wing are bad for doing it. No, a decade of the left digging up old and ancient comments and destroying careers and forcing apologies. It's been brutal, people facing serious career problems for some alleged slight about the WNBA or some other minor infringement. Now they're shocked that schadenfraude over a brutal murder has the same consequence.

So yes, it's ironic for THE LEFT, the right know what they are doing.

I knew you'd swerve the rest of it. Laughable and embarrassing.
 
either you are being very thick or you are being ironic as both the Trump shooter and the guy who killed Charlie K were not 'left' leaning, a point conveniently being ignore by those trying to promote left and right division across the US

No they weren't left leaning they were just antifa and dating a tranny. Those things are mainstream centrist.......oh....wait....
 
Most of the left complaining about what Trump is doing on speech cheered like hell when Alex Jones was sued to closure getting a $1.5bn court order for his speech.

Without Musk being upset by the obvious targeting he wouldn't have a voice anymore.

The left cancelled target after target

They used exactly the same argument of consequences for speech that the Republicans used.

I remember that time on Hol.....You know how many people on the left or centre spoke up for closing down Alex Jones or any of the others the Democrats went after?

None.
Alex Jones wasn’t sued, or cancelled, for being right wing.

He was sued for telling lies that seriously injured grieving parents. It was defamation that brought him down, not politics. Jones is a purveyor of conspiracy theories, getting rich from selling worthless merchandise at inflated prices to the gullible, who only have themselves to blame. He found his market on the right, not the left. I think we can make an educated guess why that was but if he had targeted the left and did the same then he would have suffered an identical fate.

Alex Jones posted right wing garbage for years without anyone trying to stop him. Ridicule him, certainly. Argue with him for sure. I did both myself and lost a very old friend in the USA who bought in to his nonsense as a consequence.

It isn’t what Jones “believes” that got him in trouble. It’s what he did.
 
No they weren't left leaning they were just antifa and dating a tranny. Those things are mainstream centrist.......oh....wait....
Even if true it’s completely irrelevant. People can be as different as they wish to the norms and be totally law abiding. They can look extremely conversational and be a gangster.

You disagree about beliefs. You condemn on law breaking.
 
Jones is a purveyor of conspiracy theories, getting rich from selling worthless merchandise at inflated prices to the gullible, who only have themselves to blame.

Reminds me, did your order for Palestine and LGBTQ+ flags and bunting arrive?
 
Even if true it’s completely irrelevant. People can be as different as they wish to the norms and be totally law abiding. They can look extremely conversational and be a gangster.

You disagree about beliefs. You condemn on law breaking.

That's not what I said. I said he is left wing. Anyone denying that is cuckoo
 
Irony? Yeah I see the irony, but not like you see it. You make it sound as if the right wing are bad for doing it. No, a decade of the left digging up old and ancient comments and destroying careers and forcing apologies. It's been brutal, people facing serious career problems for some alleged slight about the WNBA or some other minor infringement. Now they're shocked that schadenfraude over a brutal murder has the same consequence.

So yes, it's ironic for THE LEFT, the right know what they are doing.

I knew you'd swerve the rest of it. Laughable and embarrassing.
I don’t make it sound bad. It is bad. Any attempt to pretend otherwise is just a fig leaf of weak excuses.

In the last decade we have had 4 years of Biden, 4 years 9 months of Trump and 3 years 3 months of Obama. Neither Obama nor Biden spent any effort doing what you assert. It’s pure imagination spread by those on the right desperate to find some equivalence to justify Trump’s outrageous attacks on anyone who criticises him. Many of whom are actually Republicans.

Trump has shown far more political vengeance in the first 9 months of his second term than was done in the entire preceding 9 years 3 months. He is President but he isn’t Presidential. If the USA has elected a latter day Al Capone because he made promises to lower their taxes, close the border and expel those that don’t look like them, this is how it would be. I don’t see a lot of difference.

Fortunately there are straws in the wind that suggest that part of the MAGA movement has finally woken up as their prices go up whilst their services get cut and the rich get even richer.

Trump won’t care. He doesn’t have to win another election. Just watch him start to turn on his base if they get restless. He can pardon himself and just pontificate somewhere. Only another 3 years 3 months to go!
 
Get stuffed you've been arguing hard to drink him from the left

Its tiresome.
 
Left wing cancel culture....not a leg to stand on: hope she gets picked up by another channel.

Here we go again. The right seeing things that don’t exist and trying to blame the left.

I think it’s much more likely she got sacked for not doing her job than for anything she actually said.

If you are a news anchor you present the news in the way your employer wishes you to.

If you request to be allowed, or are asked, to make a personal statement then you can. Otherwise you cannot. Emotional attachment is not an excuse for a professional.
 

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