US Politics

[Wisbech Eagle]

Here there and everywhere! 🤷🏻‍♂️ The left basically.

Plenty of evidence out there. And plenty of evidence that people have already linked and mentioned on this thread. Which you have failed to disprove.

Since you asked her is some examples:

EU parliament
Congress
Oxford student union president
Bob Vylan

You can also Check the links yourself of people celebrating the murder and assassination. It's all out there, raw and unfiltered. Mask on the left dropped.

Nonsense.

The EU Parliament has many different strands of representation. When, how and if they might decide to comment on Charlie Kirk’s murder is a complete irrelevancy.

Both House’s of Congress are controlled by the Republicans. Not the left. The Democrats are hardly left anyway.

Union Presidents and singers are individuals. Not representative of millions. There are many individuals who are far to the right, but not representative of the right.

I have not seen any such celebrations! That you have can only be that you have looked for them. Which clearly indicates they aren’t mainstream but just on the fringes.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Who by.
You have been called a couple of mild names and one poster got a lemon for 1 of them.
Very strange a mod saw that and acted instantly !
Also don’t remember seeing any threats and if so report the poster.
Otherwise you are full of crap and lying for clicks.
Oh BTW if you claim not to be a lefty why do you defend it so much ?

I am not talking of here. I am talking of other sites, Gab in particular, which is where I have been threatened without any action being taken due to the complete absence of moderation.

I don’t defend the left! That’s a complete misunderstanding. I defend the truth and honesty.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Yep as I have been told, not a left thing

It isn’t. It’s an individual idiot thing.

You wouldn’t condemn the entire right because of a few idiots who went too far. Nor would I.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Doesn't look particularly easy but I'm on it like a bonnet.

It’s difficult. What’s easy is understanding it’s the only way in a democracy. And rightly so. Big changes need to be overwhelmingly approved and tested repeatedly before implementation. Not forced by minorities or temporary unhappiness.

Which, by the way, was why Brexit was so stupid.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It’s difficult. What’s easy is understanding it’s the only way in a democracy. And rightly so. Big changes need to be overwhelmingly approved and tested repeatedly before implementation. Not forced by minorities or temporary unhappiness.

Which, by the way, was why Brexit was so stupid.

OK but it doesn't make this advice particularly helpful.

Then change the law! Until then abide by it or suffer the consequences.

 

[eaglesdare]

Nonsense.

The EU Parliament has many different strands of representation. When, how and if they might decide to comment on Charlie Kirk’s murder is a complete irrelevancy.

Both House’s of Congress are controlled by the Republicans. Not the left. The Democrats are hardly left anyway.

Union Presidents and singers are individuals. Not representative of millions. There are many individuals who are far to the right, but not representative of the right.

I have not seen any such celebrations! That you have can only be that you have looked for them. Which clearly indicates they aren’t mainstream but just on the fringes.

Your dismissal does not hold up. The EU Parliament may have diverse representation but prominent lefty figures within it have made statements aligning with the rhetoric I have pointed to.

Congress being Republican controlled does not negate the vocal lefty figures in the democratics or their allies who have pushed divisive narratives. Calling them “not left” is just semantics to dodge the point.

Union presidents and figures like bob vylan may be individuals but they are influential voices with significant followings.

As for celebrations of violence the evidence is raw and unfiltered and easy to see. Here's some examples:

As usual you are sidestepping the issue. As I have said the leftys mask is off and the evidence is in the open.
Denying it does not make it disappear. Check the links and posts yourself instead of waving it away as “nonsense.”

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Politics are meant to divide the population and keep the ruling classes employed. If there were more dictatorships, there'd be a proportionate cut in Government spending, in the opposition and various departments. Or perhaps that was what Trump was supposing.
I don't think the polarising of left and right is particularly helpful in the investigation of Charlie Kirk's murder. There are a fair amount of idiots and nutters in every walk of life, and at all levels.
I think the very emotional and (sometimes irrational) response to his murder, is dehumanising. I think politics, if we look around the world, has made us slightly less human in our outlook.
Look at some of the mega-jails used, where some of the practices go against human principles, and sometimes legality too. And yet we seem to be more accepting of this, because people in prison are bad guys/girls.
I wonder whether there will be a clamour for the death penalty for Tyler Robinson ? wouldn't that make Kirk's supporters as bad as those who celebrated his death ?

i just think we need to take a step back from politics, because we seem to be lacking a bit on the human side. (ironic, as I'm posting in the Politics forum 😀 )

 

[Spindle]

It isn’t. It’s an individual idiot thing.

You wouldn’t condemn the entire right because of a few idiots who went too far. Nor would I.

Yes yes we know. When someone commits a vile act of voilence for the liberals it's a mad loose cannon unhinged individual with mental health issues.

When it's a hurty word on the internet about an immigrant crime it's systematic racism

 

[eaglesdare]

Politics are meant to divide the population and keep the ruling classes employed. If there were more dictatorships, there'd be a proportionate cut in Government spending, in the opposition and various departments. Or perhaps that was what Trump was supposing.
I don't think the polarising of left and right is particularly helpful in the investigation of Charlie Kirk's murder. There are a fair amount of idiots and nutters in every walk of life, and at all levels.
I think the very emotional and (sometimes irrational) response to his murder, is dehumanising. I think politics, if we look around the world, has made us slightly less human in our outlook.
Look at some of the mega-jails used, where some of the practices go against human principles, and sometimes legality too. And yet we seem to be more accepting of this, because people in prison are bad guys/girls.
I wonder whether there will be a clamour for the death penalty for Tyler Robinson ? wouldn't that make Kirk's supporters as bad as those who celebrated his death ?

i just think we need to take a step back from politics, because we seem to be lacking a bit on the human side. (ironic, as I'm posting in the Politics forum 😀 )

Charlie sums it up:

 

[Spindle]

Your dismissal does not hold up. The EU Parliament may have diverse representation but prominent lefty figures within it have made statements aligning with the rhetoric I have pointed to.

Congress being Republican controlled does not negate the vocal lefty figures in the democratics or their allies who have pushed divisive narratives. Calling them “not left” is just semantics to dodge the point.

Union presidents and figures like bob vylan may be individuals but they are influential voices with significant followings.

As for celebrations of violence the evidence is raw and unfiltered and easy to see. Here's some examples:

As usual you are sidestepping the issue. As I have said the leftys mask is off and the evidence is in the open.
Denying it does not make it disappear. Check the links and posts yourself instead of waving it away as “nonsense.”

Yup, there are thousands and thousands of celebrations going on and it dribbles down to simple laughter emojis posted on CK death reports on the likes of Facebook. It's wildly open and dead easy to find countless examples.

I guess the next claim is "both sides", expect it is far far harder to find examples of violence from the right wing. The outnumbering must be 25-1, and likely 1000-1 if you include incidents of racism by blacks on whites.

 

[Spiderman]

It isn’t. It’s an individual idiot thing.

You wouldn’t condemn the entire right because of a few idiots who went too far. Nor would I.

I would still call it a right thing. How can it be anything else, if all those celebrating are from the left? I never said all left leaning people were celebrating, but all those that were are left leaning

 

[Common Sense Club]

Politics are meant to divide the population and keep the ruling classes employed. If there were more dictatorships, there'd be a proportionate cut in Government spending, in the opposition and various departments. Or perhaps that was what Trump was supposing.
I don't think the polarising of left and right is particularly helpful in the investigation of Charlie Kirk's murder. There are a fair amount of idiots and nutters in every walk of life, and at all levels.
I think the very emotional and (sometimes irrational) response to his murder, is dehumanising. I think politics, if we look around the world, has made us slightly less human in our outlook.
Look at some of the mega-jails used, where some of the practices go against human principles, and sometimes legality too. And yet we seem to be more accepting of this, because people in prison are bad guys/girls.
I wonder whether there will be a clamour for the death penalty for Tyler Robinson ? wouldn't that make Kirk's supporters as bad as those who celebrated his death ?

i just think we need to take a step back from politics, because we seem to be lacking a bit on the human side. (ironic, as I'm posting in the Politics forum 😀 )

The death penalty is permitted in Utah. The actions of Tyler Robinson were not accidental and were pre planned; he wasn’t aiming at a deer 200 yards away and missed and hit Kirk by mistake. Kirk’s supporters don’t need to clamour for the death penalty as it will probably be ‘automatic’ in the circumstances. Whether that outcome is tight or wrong I’d for a different debate.

 

[Spiderman]

Yes yes we know. When someone commits a vile act of voilence for the liberals it's a mad loose cannon unhinged individual with mental health issues.

When it's a hurty word on the internet about an immigrant crime it's systematic racism

And a far RIGHT issue, apparently celebrating the assassination is not, however a LEFT issue

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Politics are meant to divide the population and keep the ruling classes employed. If there were more dictatorships, there'd be a proportionate cut in Government spending, in the opposition and various departments. Or perhaps that was what Trump was supposing.
I don't think the polarising of left and right is particularly helpful in the investigation of Charlie Kirk's murder. There are a fair amount of idiots and nutters in every walk of life, and at all levels.
I think the very emotional and (sometimes irrational) response to his murder, is dehumanising. I think politics, if we look around the world, has made us slightly less human in our outlook.
Look at some of the mega-jails used, where some of the practices go against human principles, and sometimes legality too. And yet we seem to be more accepting of this, because people in prison are bad guys/girls.
I wonder whether there will be a clamour for the death penalty for Tyler Robinson ? wouldn't that make Kirk's supporters as bad as those who celebrated his death ?

i just think we need to take a step back from politics, because we seem to be lacking a bit on the human side. (ironic, as I'm posting in the Politics forum 😀 )

Utah has the death sentence so it's quite possible. Ironically a firing squad is still one of the options, as with Gary Gilmore, which is largely due to the Mormon influence in the state and their dictum of blood atonement for capital crimes.

 

[eaglesdare]

The death penalty is permitted in Utah. The actions of Tyler Robinson were not accidental and were pre planned; he wasn’t aiming at a deer 200 yards away and missed and hit Kirk by mistake. Kirk’s supporters don’t need to clamour for the death penalty as it will probably be ‘automatic’ in the circumstances. Whether that outcome is tight or wrong I’d for a different debate.

I gave some videos of Charlie Kirks view just a few posts up on the subject.

 

[Spindle]

The death penalty is permitted in Utah. The actions of Tyler Robinson were not accidental and were pre planned; he wasn’t aiming at a deer 200 yards away and missed and hit Kirk by mistake. Kirk’s supporters don’t need to clamour for the death penalty as it will probably be ‘automatic’ in the circumstances. Whether that outcome is tight or wrong I’d for a different debate.

.....and by the time it happens it will be by firing squad too. They recently changed their law to do this, comes in early 2026.

 

[georgenorman]

.....and by the time it happens it will be by firing squad too. They recently changed their law to do this, comes in early 2026.

Is there any way you can apply to be part of the firing squad?

 

[ASCPFC]

Is there any way you can apply to be part of the firing squad?

Total aside really, but you would have thought firing squads could be automated these days. Guns could be trained on a spot. The person stands there. Maybe three people press a different button simultaneously yet only one actually fires the guns. Just a thought.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

I gave some videos of Charlie Kirks view just a few posts up on the subject.

And I think those video's could be used as part of a Victim Impact Statement when deciding what the punishment should be, when the guilty verdict is given

 

[HKOwen]

utah at one time offered decapitation as an alternative, it was abndoned after a while as no one opted for it.

The only thing that might save this POS is a plea for clemency from the wife