Labour Party politics

Fine can we bring back serfdom as well.

Our constitution is not a written one and constantly evolves e.g. Blair and the Uman Rights. I am just advocating that MPs loyalty should be to the country and not to an individual.

And their is no need for MPs to swear on a holy book. It's a job we all sign contracts when we start one, I was never asked to swear on the bible that I would obey company policy.
Whether or not they should, their job isn’t comparable to most other jobs. Well not private sector jobs. And they’ve been elected by the public, obviously. None of us are.
 
Fine can we bring back serfdom as well.

Our constitution is not a written one and constantly evolves e.g. Blair and the Uman Rights. I am just advocating that MPs loyalty should be to the country and not to an individual.

And their is no need for MPs to swear on a holy book. It's a job we all sign contracts when we start one, I was never asked to swear on the bible that I would obey company policy.
Not codified maybe, but plenty of key principles that are documented and ilke acts of parliament can be changed
 

I'm shocked (not really) people in the housing department taking bribes. I wonder who are the tenants jumping the queues?

Still the good news is this is just an isolated incident I am sure that across London the housing departments are all run by hard working, honest and conscientious employees. 😉
 

I'm shocked (not really) people in the housing department taking bribes. I wonder who are the tenants jumping the queues?

Still the good news is this is just an isolated incident I am sure that across London the housing departments are all run by hard working, honest and conscientious employees. 😉

Yeah not sectarian at all.

Never forget the people who cheered on your disenfranchisement......which will only deepen with demographics.
 
Labour have the whiff of tory spiteful incompetence, it is their policies that need changing, not meaningless re-shuffles.

A fight for their soul is on the cards.

Enter 'Mainstream' backed by Andy Burnham, the purpose to unite the centre and left into an effective force.

Centre-left, moderation, is where, imo, voters at the last election were and expected.from labour.

They got the opposite.

😎
 

These people do not "appear" to be protestors but just Joe Public who suddenly realise that the anointed one is among us. I think they call this a litmus test.

Update
Well that didn't take long. My mate just sent me a video and by the time I had posted it Instagram has taken it down.

It was a shaky mobile video of Starmer about to exit a hotel the public just walking pass suddenly realised and started changing "Starmer is a ..." Well you get the point.

Nothing new the left always follow a Tory PM around and chant the same however it looked to me as though this wasn't an organised protest but just the random public.

He aint popular. Pity you can't see it.
 
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Any males would be kinda female anyway.
Ha, not all. I have mentioned Dan Jarvis before. He'd walk the next election. A shoe in for Deputy, but...

As Mizzz Harriet Har-person said yesterday, the new Dep MUST be a woman; and she MUST be Northern.

An inclusivity Dep will appeal to the Metropolitan elite, but few else.

It pains me to say this, but we are still voting for authoritative males. Thatcher was an outlier, but her voice dropped octaves to improve her image of "strength". The current Tory incumbent will see her party wiped clean partly because of her.

Reform are not just riding the wave of populism, but are led by 2 white males saying f*** you to "cancel"... and the public are loving them for it, despite relentless media negativity (and the fact that they are genuinely awful).

In the US, a poll just made of a "what if" Trump stood against Obama today, Obama trounces the Orange One by 11 points. But DT pulls way clear of both Kamila Harris and Hillary Clinton. This is despite every recent political US drama casting Angela Bassett as the president. Most voters are boomers or late gen X (i.e. not youngsters who see no issue in black actors playing warriors at the Battle of Hastings). Those who vote still want men to lead.

A Starmer/Jarvis ticket would play very well to the voting electorate. It won't happen. Inclusivity will trump electoral success and Labour will have blown off their own feet with both barrels.

Again.
 
Ha, not all. I have mentioned Dan Jarvis before. He'd walk the next election. A shoe in for Deputy, but...

As Mizzz Harriet Har-person said yesterday, the new Dep MUST be a woman; and she MUST be Northern.

An inclusivity Dep will appeal to the Metropolitan elite, but few else.

It pains me to say this, but we are still voting for authoritative males. Thatcher was an outlier, but her voice dropped octaves to improve her image of "strength". The current Tory incumbent will see her party wiped clean partly because of her.

Reform are not just riding the wave of populism, but are led by 2 white males saying f*** you to "cancel"... and the public are loving them for it, despite relentless media negativity (and the fact that they are genuinely awful).

In the US, a poll just made of a "what if" Trump stood against Obama today, Obama trounces the Orange One by 11 points. But DT pulls way clear of both Kamila Harris and Hillary Clinton. This is despite every recent political US drama casting Angela Bassett as the president. Most voters are boomers or late gen X (i.e. not youngsters who see no issue in black actors playing warriors at the Battle of Hastings). Those who vote still want men to lead.

A Starmer/Jarvis ticket would play very well to the voting electorate. It won't happen. Inclusivity will trump electoral success and Labour will have blown off their own feet with both barrels.

Again.

I was being tongue in cheek but no doubt you know more about the lefty up and comers than I do.

Anyway you sound as narked about our current politics as the rest of us.....just from a centre left angle.
 
Labour:

Pissing off the left with their Palestine Action stuff.

Pissing off the working class with higher prices.

Pissing off the middle classes with higher taxes.

Pissing off the old with cutting benefits.

Pissing off anyone needing treatment on the NHS.

Pissing off the right with immigration.

Pissing off business with higher contributions

Pissing off homeowners with higher council tax and poorer service

Pissing off renters by doing nothing.

Pissing off first time buyers with lack of house construction.

Pissing off students and their parents with an onus on foreign fee paying students and lack of affordable accommodation.

I realised that I've pissed myself and everyone else of with a list that could do with several other points.
I figured the only people not getting pissed off with Labour are likely Islamic, newly arrived asylum seekers, the long term unemployed, particularly those in housing authority housing or perhaps the rich, rather ironically. There has been no concerted effort to stop tax evasion by the very richest. If there's such a thing as a Muslim block vote, it almost looks like Labour want that. I believe that we'll stop seeing the trans agenda in education, not to placate the right, but to placate the more vociferous religious element. Is Khan (pardon me) being groomed for future Labour glory? I've thought it for a long time.
 
Labour:

Pissing off the left with their Palestine Action stuff.

Pissing off the working class with higher prices.

Pissing off the middle classes with higher taxes.

Pissing off the old with cutting benefits.

Pissing off anyone needing treatment on the NHS.

Pissing off the right with immigration.

Pissing off business with higher contributions

Pissing off homeowners with higher council tax and poorer service

Pissing off renters by doing nothing.

Pissing off first time buyers with lack of house construction.

Pissing off students and their parents with an onus on foreign fee paying students and lack of affordable accommodation.

I realised that I've pissed myself and everyone else of with a list that could do with several other points.
I figured the only people not getting pissed off with Labour are likely Islamic, newly arrived asylum seekers, the long term unemployed, particularly those in housing authority housing or perhaps the rich, rather ironically. There has been no concerted effort to stop tax evasion by the very richest. If there's such a thing as a Muslim block vote, it almost looks like Labour want that. I believe that we'll stop seeing the trans agenda in education, not to placate the right, but to placate the more vociferous religious element. Is Khan (pardon me) being groomed for future Labour glory? I've thought it for a long time.
Well he doesn’t care about who was and is groomed !
 
Why he was ever given the most prestigious Ambassador post, ahead of career diplomats is mind boggling. However it is another gift that they keep on giving 😂

 
Why he was ever given the most prestigious Ambassador post, ahead of career diplomats is mind boggling. However it is another gift that they keep on giving 😂

Mandelson is like Boris in that scandal follows them around. They maybe talented but they are disasters waiting to happen.
 

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