Woke is alive and well

CPFCSaturn said:
You’re very good at taking a terrible point and reframing it under a more palatable larger point, but it’s quite transparent.

They’ve been selling this ‘cancelling Christmas’ shite for decades now - it’s objectively funny that it still gets lapped up.
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No, you are mocking something that is very real.

You want to focus upon a narrow point.

I'm interested in the actual reality.....and he's very spot on.

I'm not a Christian anymore because the religion has been completely feminised and turned into a universalist alphabet apology stage show.....but that's not the point. I might join an Orthodox church if one opens up here as that hasn't bastardied itself.

Christianity is under attack, whether it's from progressive 'churches', humanist egalitarians as judges or retailers looking to flog 'winter' festival crap to atheists or other religions.

Whether deliberately or not, it all leads to its continued decline.
 
eaglesdare said:
It's funny how "cancelling Christmas" used to be a joke and now schools ban nativity plays and councils call Christmas lights "winter lights".

Like stirling says the things we were mocked for warning about is now policy these days.
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It's really strange that people can deny this phenomena, even when it's right before their eyes.

I'd respect people more if they defended it as being 'culturally inclusive'. A flawed argument, but at least they would not then denying it's happening.
 
Stirlingsays said:
No, you are mocking something that is very real.

You want to focus upon a narrow point.

I'm interested in the actual reality.....and he's very spot on.

I'm not a Christian anymore because the religion has been completely feminised.....but that's not the point. I might join an Orthodox church if one opens up here.

Christianity is under attack, whether it's from progressive 'churches', humanist egalitarians as judges or retailers looking to flog 'winter' festival crap to atheists or other religions.

Whether deliberately or not, it all leads to its continued decline.
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Just wait till the feminists find out what they have replaced Christianity with. They won't be able to leave the house without wearing a headscarf and will loose all women's rights if we keep going down that route.
 
Stirlingsays said:
No, you are mocking something that is very real.

You want to focus upon a narrow point.

I'm interested in the actual reality.....and he's very spot on.

I'm not a Christian anymore because the religion has been completely feminised and turned into a universalist alphabet apology stage show.....but that's not the point. I might join an Orthodox church if one opens up here as that hasn't bastardied itself.

Christianity is under attack, whether it's from progressive 'churches', humanist egalitarians as judges or retailers looking to flog 'winter' festival crap to atheists or other religions.

Whether deliberately or not, it all leads to its continued decline.
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I want to focus on the point he made.

You want to hide that point behind a larger point which has more credibility, as you continue to do above.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
I want to focus on the point he made.

You want to hide that point behind a larger point which has more credibility, as you continue to do above.
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Yeah, but you were making the larger point that the 'winter' stuff isn't the majority and so preferred to mock rather than address the obvious point he was making.

So, I made the point that the loony left weren't the majority thirty years ago.....with demographic shift and the decline of Christianity what he is seeing and experiencing at work is only going to worsen.

So, I regard your mockery of his point as churlish.

It's rational for someone supporting the tradition that this is a Christian country should be concerned.
 
McAhuna said:
It's really strange that people can deny this phenomena, even when it's right before their eyes.

I'd respect people more if they defended it as being 'culturally inclusive'. A flawed argument, but at least they would not then denying it's happening.
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I find it stranger that something objectively untrue is happily supported by so many, because it happens to align with their preconceptions.

The claim is that Tesco are cancelling, or contributing to the cancelling of, Christmas by specifically branding one box of trees as evergreen trees, despite still using the word Christmas on dozens of other products, writing it all over their stores and website, and indeed on other trees they sell.

How does that make even a semblance of sense?

This claim has even been community noted on X ffs.
 

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With no shade at all to the posters, in the few replies already we’ve seen a claim that ‘white Christmas’ was cancelled for being racist, and a suggestion that you can no longer call them gingerbread men, which are both just previous iterations of this Tesco story.

And this is how this stuff sticks, despite very little of it being true!
 
CPFCSaturn said:
With no shade at all to the posters, in the few replies already we’ve seen a claim that ‘white Christmas’ was cancelled for being racist, and a suggestion that you can no longer call them gingerbread men, which are both just previous iterations of this Tesco story.

And this is how this stuff sticks, despite very little of it being true!
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www.thesun.co.uk

Furious MPs lash out at sale of woke £1.70 'gingerbread people'

THE sale of woke “gingerbread people” in the House of Commons sparked outrage among MPs today. Politicians hit out at parliamentary authorities for forcing iconic Christmas snacks to be gender neut…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
 
eaglesdare said:
www.thesun.co.uk

Furious MPs lash out at sale of woke £1.70 'gingerbread people'

THE sale of woke “gingerbread people” in the House of Commons sparked outrage among MPs today. Politicians hit out at parliamentary authorities for forcing iconic Christmas snacks to be gender neut…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
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Yes, these articles get written every single year so you can froth - the articles are not proof of anything.

Tesco are selling gingerbread men, so are they part of the cancelling or not? It’s just all so confusing!

Anyway, I’m out - hope you all have a wonderful festive wintertime.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Yes, these articles get written every single year so you can froth - the articles are not proof of anything.

Tesco are selling gingerbread men, so are they part of the cancelling or not? It’s just all so confusing!

Anyway, I’m out - hope you all have a wonderful festive wintertime.
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nypost.com

Backlash after school banned ‘Jingle Bells’ over Christmas

Council Rock Primary School had axed “Jingle Bells” from the school’s holiday repertoire because the holiday mainstay may have been first performed at minstrel shows in 1857.
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CPFCSaturn said:
Yes, these articles get written every single year so you can froth - the articles are not proof of anything.

Tesco are selling gingerbread men, so are they part of the cancelling or not? It’s just all so confusing!

Anyway, I’m out - hope you all have a wonderful festive wintertime.
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I have just provided you multiple forms of proof of my argument and then you say they arnt proof of anything and then run off 🤣
 
CPFCSaturn said:
I find it stranger that something objectively untrue is happily supported by so many, because it happens to align with their preconceptions.

The claim is that Tesco are cancelling, or contributing to the cancelling of, Christmas by specifically branding one box of trees as evergreen trees, despite still using the word Christmas on dozens of other products, writing it all over their stores and website, and indeed on other trees they sell.

How does that make even a semblance of sense?

This claim has even been community noted on X ffs.
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Yes, it's an old story. Just not quite as you tell it.

The truth is that Tesco did market an 'Evergreen Tree' replacing 'Christmas Tree'.
As so often happens, there was a public backlash and Tesco's PR and marketing weasels scramble to repair the damage, rapidly pushing 'Christmas Trees' back to the top of the algorithm, and front and centre in stores so they can subsequently proclaim their innocence.

Unfortunately for Tesco, they can't cover their tracks completely, because the things are still all over ebay with their name on it!
There will always be people who get sold on corporate PR, but nowadays most people trust the evidence of their own eyes and ears.
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