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I did - and lost around 50% of my money.
Which conspiracy theories do you believe?
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doi209
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Gordon Banks was poisoned by the CIA before the 1970 1/4 final against Germany. Peter Bonetti was an undercover mole in the England camp.
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The Twin Towers were not destroyed by explosives.
I don't think anybody thinks that they were, on their own, the fact that when the plane hit, key positioned explosives were detonated to aid the collapse of the towers is another thing.
I didn't say they were. I was just interested if anyone could explain the Bush speech and the picture of him found on Epstein Island.
Even better still can someone explain how our beloved Aunty Beeb reported the collapse of Building 7, a full 23 minutes before it actually happened?
Bearing in mind the official story is that it collapsed solely as a result of the damage caused earlier by by terrorist- hijacked aircraft, and there was no controlled demolition by emergency services.
Bearing in mind the official story is that it collapsed solely as a result of the damage caused earlier by by terrorist- hijacked aircraft, and there was no controlled demolition by emergency services.
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Ok, so why don't we hear those explosives being detonated on the audio?
When we look at explosives in building detonations we are left in zero doubt.
The design of those Towers meant that weakened steel trusses would eventually lead to collapse.
Same time as plane hit, i am not saying it happened, just nothing would surprise me if it did,
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Explaining why the guy who is also on record saying that man and fish had to find a way of living together is difficult.
Bush Jnr didn't have the same level of brains that his father had and often spoke poorly.
As for the image of him suggesting involvement in the attacks.....I've always believed that elements of CIA/Mossad knew the attack was coming.....Well, it's factual that they knew something big was being planned, just how much beyond that is speculation.
But the 'Israelis' arrested shortly after and the Fox reporting on it (which is now difficult to find) makes it quite plain something wasn't right.
Do I believe that junior actually knew about the planes being flown into those Towers.....personally no I don't.
Stirlingsays
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Well, I don't blame you for having suspicions.
However, in terms of how the Towers collapsed I've always seen it as quite straight forward.
Why the attack happened and who knew.....on that I don't think the truth is officially accepted because it's beyond awful.
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You seriously think the BBC were in on a conspiracy?
The BBC?
How WTC 7 collapsed is here:
Jeez. Have you been hacked?
The faux outrage of a slur on our beloved national treasure institution? - Please. It's a corrupt nest of peadoes, and I'm being generous. And I think you already know that.
Besides, what is your explanation for how they announced the collapse 23 mins early?
In all human history, only three buildings have ever collapsed in freefall on their own footprint due to impact/fire rather than from controlled demolition.
All three were on 9/11.
I don't want to get on my hobbyhorse again, but the BBC, the MET and the ROYAL family are riddled with Freemasonry, people think they have gone, but they certainly haven't, back in the mid 80s, a guy called Teddy Thompson was bar manager in the Wood green studios, he wanted his son to get a temporary job as a bartender, the guy was my best friend at the time, but he had to join the Masons to get the Job, he refused too, and wasn't allowed to get the job, The Connaught rooms are the center of the major lodges, where they hold their meetings, it was built on the site of the Freemasons Arms Pub, my Uncle had a job in their, as cleaner, and he kept a book of all the celebrity's and politicians he knew, who turned up for the meetings, even his brother turned up and he didn't know he was "on the square", obviously the current head mason or grandmaster is the Duke of Kent
Stirlingsays
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The BBC is left wing and thus it's an easier target for peados to hide within it due to its more accepting attitude towards deviance. But that's a separate discussion.
No, the point was that the BBC isn't an organisation that would go along with plots involving the murder of 3000 people. Very few organisations would....That kind of stuff exists within units within intelligence sure.....but as the old Chinese saying goes, 'three can keep a secret if two of them are dead'.
It's the same with the Bush quote, it's just poor use of language. You do understand that it's a cheery picked example out of hours of discussion on that day.
If you seriously think the BBC or any of the people involved on the ground that day were in on this.....then why has there been zero leaks to organisations like Wikileaks?
They don't actually have to have been 'in on it', although I wouldn't rule it out. Certainly not all of them have to be in on it.
But what was the source of that information that day? Were they briefed by an intelligence official and report it verbatim? If so, why don't the BBC tell us that?
Remember, the authorities deny there was controlled demolition by friend or foe. Besides, controlled demolition typically takes days to set up.
Remember no buildings had ever collapsed in freefall on their own footprint before.
So very real and fair questions remain unanswered.
Just huffing and puffing about how it can't be a conspiracy still doesn't begin to answer those very fair and reasonable questions.
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They didn't fall in freefall and they didn't fall into their own footprints.....These are just inaccurate statements. Buildings can and do fall relatively vertically under gravity once critical supports fail but none of them match the 'footprints' description.
The design of these buildings did not follow the traditional concrete and steel matrix. Instead it was a modern design that used fireproofing, and sprinkler systems to combat fire and heat threats to the building. The flaw in the design was that these Towers....unlike their replacements.....weren't designed to cope with planes of that size slamming into them. It meant fire proofing and sprinklers were destroyed and with the fuel weakening the steel trusses holding the floors up, you only need one point of failure for the deck of cards to fall.
Other multi-story buildings (steel, concrete, masonry, wood) have collapsed partially or totally from fire. Historical surveys of fire-induced collapses (1970s–2000s) document multiple cases, including steel-framed ones with partial floor/beam failures and some total collapses of shorter or less-protected structures. Examples include the 2017 Plasco Building (Tehran, 17-story steel-framed, total collapse after hours of fire) and the 2005 Windsor Tower (Madrid, significant steel-section collapse from fire).