War in Ukraine

[Stirlingsays]

I think there is ample scope for the examination of foreign criminal money in London......But that is all of it....Not just Russian.

Same for all the successful financial centres around the world.

Thing is, I'm well aware that without the tax take from that neoliberal criminal global money honey, we can't pay for all the boomer's pensions and our NHS.

Most normies just haven't got a clue....and in truth would prefer not to know.

 

[McAhuna]

I think there is ample scope for the examination of foreign criminal money in London......But that is all of it....Not just Russian.

Same for all the successful financial centres around the world.

Thing is, I'm well aware that without the tax take from that neoliberal criminal global money honey, we can't pay for all the boomer's pensions and our NHS.

Most normies just haven't got a clue....and in truth would prefer not to know.

As you say the City is a haven for dodgy money.

There are almost certainly far worse examples than the likes of Abramovich, who incidentally passed the 'Fit and Proper Person' test.
Many of us will have attended away games at Stamford Bridge and put money in his coffers.
But he is now apparently so irredeemably awful he deserves to be robbed.
Make it make sense!

 

[Stirlingsays]

As you say the City is a haven for dodgy money.

There are almost certainly far worse examples than the likes of Abramovich, who incidentally passed the 'Fit and Proper Person' test.
Many of us will have attended away games at Stamford Bridge and put money in his coffers.
But he is now apparently so irredeemably awful he deserves to be robbed.
Make it make sense!

Anyone objective can see what's gone on here.

Now, let's not get me wrong, I'd have Trump over Biden or Harris any day of the week.....But Trump attacking Venezuela and previously trying to pretend it was about the drugs trade was just pure lying.....Everyone knows that Mexico and Columbia and China are far more responsible for America's drug problems (not least intel involvement in the past).

No, it's taking money from your enemies and turning a blind eye to the dirty money of your friends.....or enemies you'd rather not target because the price paid would be greater.

It's as old as the hills.

So with Abramovich, they were happy with him up until Putin invaded in 2022 and now all of a sudden that money is unethical?

London is awash with criminal money and they don't give a feck but because the media don't do their job no one gives a damn.....one hand washes the other.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Totally agree.

The failure of moralism in place of realism.....standing in individual riches while taking decisions that make your populations poorer.

Putting a 90 billion loan to Ukraine reserved onto the European taxpayer, while the war has likely less than a year to go.

The taxpayer once against raped by rich elite social liberals.

 

[chris123]

As you say the City is a haven for dodgy money.

There are almost certainly far worse examples than the likes of Abramovich, who incidentally passed the 'Fit and Proper Person' test.
Many of us will have attended away games at Stamford Bridge and put money in his coffers.
But he is now apparently so irredeemably awful he deserves to be robbed.
Make it make sense!

I doubt it, the test came in in 2004, and Ken Bates had sold Chelsea by then.

 

[Stirlingsays]

As you say the City is a haven for dodgy money.

There are almost certainly far worse examples than the likes of Abramovich, who incidentally passed the 'Fit and Proper Person' test.
Many of us will have attended away games at Stamford Bridge and put money in his coffers.
But he is now apparently so irredeemably awful he deserves to be robbed.
Make it make sense!

Al Fared running Harrods and then Fulham......was another very obvious example.

The media made great hay when it was convenient to tear Al Fayed down with all the dodgy dealings and rape accusations......all of which could have been made public years before.

But what about the people who took Fayed's money? The selling of Harrods to a dodgy Egyptian shipping magnet when it was family silver? What about those who overlooked it all?

All ignored....because....look they want you to look at the symptoms and not the causes....not how we got here.

Al Fayed always wanted publicity, but for every Fayed there are numerous other examples of power brokers defiling London who you have never heard of.

 

[Spindle]

Bloody funny 🤣

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

The effective EU sanctions have:

Put up petrol prices
Put up gas prices
Put up electricity prices
Put up the cost of living.
Made us less safe from Russian attack.

Or are these useful lies for the elites to put more rigorous constraints on the population and steal more money in taxes ?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The effective EU sanctions have:

Put up petrol prices
Put up gas prices
Put up electricity prices
Put up the cost of living.
Made us less safe from Russian attack.

Or are these useful lies for the elites to put more rigorous constraints on the population and steal more money in taxes ?

Are all side effects. Not the main event.

The last isn’t true. In the longer term.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Bloody funny 🤣

They need to sack all the soy liberals they put in charge of our military and run it like the old days.

Just with the tech of the modern battlefield......which at the moment is drone focused.

Their problem is that they want whitey to fight for them all after demonising him with DEI for the last ten years and not even defending our own borders from invaders.....but instead giving them stuff like free dental care that many of these young white lads they want can't even afford.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The effective EU sanctions have:

Put up petrol prices
Put up gas prices
Put up electricity prices
Put up the cost of living.
Made us less safe from Russian attack.

Or are these useful lies for the elites to put more rigorous constraints on the population and steal more money in taxes ?

They have handled the whole thing like the worst chess players in history.

All their mistakes are just placed onto the backs of the taxpayer.....they will be voted out and swan off to their rich lives and gold plated pensions......but the taxpayer is left holding the bag on tens of billions to Ukraine (which I don't see for the life of me us getting back)

 

[chris123]

The effective EU sanctions have:

Put up petrol prices
Put up gas prices
Put up electricity prices
Put up the cost of living.
Made us less safe from Russian attack.

Or are these useful lies for the elites to put more rigorous constraints on the population and steal more money in taxes ?

A barrel of oil has been under $70 and nearer $60 for a long time and covid has had a major influence on the cost of living.

EU sanctions are dwarfed by US.

And Europe is correct in upping its defence spend.

 

[McAhuna]

They have handled the whole thing like the worst chess players in history.

All their mistakes are just placed onto the backs of the taxpayer.....they will be voted out and swan off to their rich lives and gold plated pensions......but the taxpayer is left holding the bag on tens of billions to Ukraine (which I don't see for the life of me us getting back)

Or are they actually competent chess players? Just not playing the same game that we were all led to believe?
Their actions make perfect sense if we accept some very harsh truths:

1) They don't care about the loss of life (Ukrainian, Russian or European), they even welcome it, particularly of young white males of fighting age. This group is their real enemy and likely future source of opposition to their plans
2) War is preferable to peace, the more prolonged the better.
3) Endless stalemate is actually the preferred status of the war, because it provides a stable laboratory
4) This 'stable laboratory' allows them to test their expensive new AI weapons, and offload their old weapons for £.
4) Both 2, 3 and 4 ensure a continued transfer of wealth from ordinary taxpayers to the elites via the military/industrial complex.
5) The transition to an AI/digital war machine actually requires all of the above to take place.
6) The AI/digital 'army' of the future will allow them to exercise total control, without the risk of human elements turning on them.
7) Just as in WW1 the leaders of the opposing sides have a much cosier relationship than ordinary people realise. In WW1 this was direct family links through royal bloodlines. In the 21st century, this is through the WEF, particularly the 'Young Global Leaders' programme of which Putin and many Western leaders jointly attended.