War in Ukraine

That's not how the media have portrayed it. They've sounded it out that he's dealing with the corruption. Yes, he'll be killed by Russia if they are given what they want.

Ha! Zelensky 'dealing with the corruption'.....Just as corrupt as the Russians.

The USA pisses more money on the military in peacetime, they run a huge force. It's not Ukraine bleeding then, they've sold tons of arms because of this war.

It can't be denied.

I expected Trump to reduce the military budget but he's increased it.
 
I think 'they' fired off the first of the US missiles the other day....can't remember the name.
I presume Patriot but there are a couple of others. This is the kind of thing I mean - as you realise. Our "advisors" have to fire our "top secret" weapon's tech. In case somebody gets it and reverse engineers it.
I mean it's not like China have done that already is it. There are no Ukrainians who'd just sell it to the highest bidders. Nothing's gone missing has it? That story was quickly quoshed.
 
What is the deal? Capitulation? Yeah, why take that?

Well they have lost, and it'll only get worse.....they ran out of men essentially.

Russia want the land they've failed to take and have Ukraine weakened for the future, obviously so Putin can resume his attacks once he's regrouped.

No point in Putin taking the west of Ukraine.....what he wants is to leave Ukraine weakened so that it can't take the east of Ukraine back.....Putin isn't stupid and he has the upper hand, so I see him getting what he wants.....but mainly because of economic reasons leading into the US mid terms.
 
I presume Patriot but there are a couple of others. This is the kind of thing I mean - as you realise. Our "advisors" have to fire our "top secret" weapon's tech. In case somebody gets it and reverse engineers it.
I mean it's not like China have done that already is it. There are no Ukrainians who'd just sell it to the highest bidders. Nothing's gone missing has it? That story was quickly quoshed.

I'll have a look.

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Well they have lost, and it'll only get worse.....they ran out of men essentially.



No point in Putin taking the west of Ukraine.....what he wants is to leave Ukraine weakened so that it can't take the east of Ukraine back.....Putin isn't stupid and he has the upper hand, so I see him getting what he wants.....but mainly because of economic reasons leading into the US mid terms.

You've been saying that for at least a year. And their issue isn't men, it's logistics, with a no man's land both in front and BEHIND the trench. Drone warfare, who'd have seen it in this kind of way?

Ukraine will just end up getting SHORADS of various types in the end.
 
Seems I wasn't wrong, this isn't the first time they've used ATACMS


US using them to pressure both Ukraine and Russia to agree to their plan.

If it falls apart though I don't see them continuing to give them if Ukraine hit oil production.
 
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You've been saying that for at least a year. And their issue isn't men, it's logistics, with a no man's land both in front and BEHIND the trench. Drone warfare, who'd have seen it in this kind of way?

Ukraine will just end up getting SHORADS of various types in the end.

It's been true for a year.....drones were helping them for a while but now they are out produced.

I follow the battle reports, it's definitely manpower.

They lost 60 sqkm the other day.....losing two cities soon....One's practically fallen already.
 
You've been saying that for at least a year. And their issue isn't men, it's logistics, with a no man's land both in front and BEHIND the trench. Drone warfare, who'd have seen it in this kind of way?

Ukraine will just end up getting SHORADS of various types in the end.

Ukraine's best outcome? Has always been no war with Russia, it's been worst than a disaster for them and Zelensky has made bad decision after bad decision.

The Ukrainians were led down the garden path.
 
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This US peace plan looks increasingly suspicious and designed to fail.

A way for Trump to throw up his hands and exit?

I thought he had already exited. Leaving it to the Europeans.

Anyone of conscription age (Knowing Starmer it will be up to about 90) should maybe think about their options. Dual nationality is a useful one - we have Irish and Jamaican connections in our wider family.

But for those who have bought the propaganda, who hate Russians, who love Zelensky and his rogue state, you might well have a chance to walk the walk, rather than just talk the talk.
Let's hope you find all the military equipment as exciting in real life.
 
Right on cue this morning....
That shiny white hat would make a nice target for a Russian drone.
Unfortunately, I can't see it leaving the buffet table in a cosy French rural château anytime soon.


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I thought he had already exited. Leaving it to the Europeans.

He has in terms of giving money to the Ukrainians.

But economically the war still affects the US and he wants to put pressure on both sides to end it. He needs a win to raise morale.....I can't see it but you never know.

Anyone of conscription age (Knowing Starmer it will be up to about 90) should maybe think about their options. Dual nationality is a useful one - we have Irish and Jamaican connections in our wider family.

I'm too old but even if I weren't I wouldn't fight for this shower. They have gone out of their way to demonise normal conservative males....yet that's the most likely person to join an Army......Na, let the lefty feminists and the social liberals fight.

But for those who have bought the propaganda, who hate Russians, who love Zelensky and his rogue state, you might well have a chance to walk the walk, rather than just talk the talk.
Let's hope you find all the military equipment as exciting in real life.

I second that sentiment.
 
Right on cue this morning....
That shiny white hat would make a nice target for a Russian drone.
Unfortunately, I can't see it leaving the buffet table in a cosy French rural château anytime soon.


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Yeah, fight for the right to own nothing and be happy and have the state teach your kids about pride parades. While they bring in foreigners to out compete you for low, mid and high wage jobs.
 
Ukraine and European allies reject key parts of "U.S.-Russian peace plan" following Merz, Macron, and Starmer call — Bloomberg.

I'm suspicious that these extremely unpopular current leaders in Europe are prepared to get our boys killed for Ukraine.....So it can have pride parades and trans rights.....all while they demographically replace the dead Ukrainians with non Europeans.

Rinse and repeat.

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I'm hearing that the US are going to offer Ukraine some kind of peace deal, 'take it or leave it offer'.

Ukraine and Russia saying they have no knowledge but apparently US officials have been briefing on it.
It's obvious that the Russians aren't going to give up what they hold. The only deal will be Russia keeping the Donbas and Ukraine remaining out of NATO.

Ukraine cannot win the war without Western money, and even then we cannot supply the weapons to do it without escalation.

If Putin attacks a NATO country, then we really will be at Def Con 1.
 

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