War in the Middle East

Yes except that wind farms etc are highly inefficient and expensive. They put the price of energy up not Mythbusting: "Wind power is unreliable, inefficient and harmful to nature"
What we needed decades ago was a program of building nuclear power stations, but successive governments failed to do it.
There have been numerous examples of cheap energy inventions being created only for the inventors to die mysteriously or have their patents seized. The world could be better right now but our overlords have different ideas.
While oil and gas are still king, we must ensure that supplies are not restricted by rogue states who just happen by chance to have favourable geology and geography. This was always coming like a Biblical prophecy.
As usual you are spouting another load of nonsense. No doubt gleaned from some climate change denying source. The point about all renewable sources is not the cost, never has been and never will be. It’s all about it being sustainable for future generations. For us it’s also about them being ours. Thus removing the threats we currently face. The need to develop renewable energy has pushed it to become not just desirable but also highly efficient. As this alternative source to yours suggests:-


Yes, investing in nuclear is also desirable but as we know both the costs of doing so and the timescales are major disadvantages.
 
As usual you are spouting another load of nonsense. No doubt gleaned from some climate change denying source. The point about all renewable sources is not the cost, never has been and never will be. It’s all about it being sustainable for future generations. For us it’s also about them being ours. Thus removing the threats we currently face. The need to develop renewable energy has pushed it to become not just desirable but also highly efficient. As this alternative source to yours suggests:-


Yes, investing in nuclear is also desirable but as we know both the costs of doing so and the timescales are major disadvantages.
If it isn’t about the cost why are we not given it for free. If it’s that urgent we only have a few years anyway so money will be as much use as a chocolate fire guard!
 
Your usual defeatist attitude.

We had the bomb. They didn't. I think that might have given us a bit of an advantage.

They didn't create a bomb until 1949. That is with no war for 4 years.

Well that was Churchill's and Patton's attitude and others......but the west and allies were exhausted with war and once the war in Europe and Pacific were finished no one was up for a war with 'Uncle Joe'.

Churchill's writings show that he felt guilty about losing the empire and how the war finished...for example half of Europe under the communists, including Poland.....but he justified it as the lesser evil....weak sauce in my view.

Now his country and people (because he like all Victorians understood that we were a people), and the wider European group itself are under threat of losing control of their own countries.....and indeed, will become a minority within them unless someone like Lowe takes over......Farage will only fiddle around the edges.

Yeah....When you notice and see it and wake up from the narratives sold to you.....You can't ever unsee it again.
 
Trump says war will be over soon - good. Our pensions might recover overtime.
We have regime change in Iran, from father to son, and we were told last year the nuclear risk had been obliterated, so that’s ticked off.
Basically he seems to have lost the support of the real power brokers in the USA who want the oil back online.
So what has been achieved?
I assume Israel will carry on with their war against Hezbolah and all this bullshit about tbe poor Iranians etc etc is exactly that.
I hope people think it was worth it.
 
Well that was Churchill's and Patton's attitude and others......but the west and allies were exhausted with war and once the war in Europe and Pacific were finished no one was up for a war with 'Uncle Joe'.

Churchill's writings show that he felt guilty about losing the empire and how the war finished...for example half of Europe under the communists, including Poland.....but he justified it as the lesser evil....weak sauce in my view.

Now his country and people (because he like all Victorians understood that we were a people), and the wider European group itself are under threat of losing control of their own countries.....and indeed, will become a minority within them unless someone like Lowe takes over......Farage will only fiddle around the edges.

Yeah....When you notice and see it and wake up from the narratives sold to you.....You can't ever unsee it again.
I'm sure we would have found someone else to fight if Russia had been neutralized. It's what we do.

I love it when we are told that the 10% of us who are of European descent are racists because we are protective of our own kind and culture and that we should embrace the other 90% who not only occupy the majority of the planet, a lot of which is Third World, but also want to occupy our bit too and turn that into the Third World. It's almost like they want us gone.
 
If it isn’t about the cost why are we not given it for free. If it’s that urgent we only have a few years anyway so money will be as much use as a chocolate fire guard!
Who on earth do you think can just give things away? The government has no money, it just manages ours. There have been plenty of financial incentives to encourage the transition to renewables. Is it urgent? That depends on how you define urgency. It isn’t in the short term, but as the impact is already evident it is in the mid to long term.
 
Trump says war will be over soon - good. Our pensions might recover overtime.
We have regime change in Iran, from father to son, and we were told last year the nuclear risk had been obliterated, so that’s ticked off.
Basically he seems to have lost the support of the real power brokers in the USA who want the oil back online.
So what has been achieved?
I assume Israel will carry on with their war against Hezbolah and all this bullshit about tbe poor Iranians etc etc is exactly that.
I hope people think it was worth it.
The conflict has been going on for just over a week. You are talking like its another Vietnam.
I'm sure there is more to come yet.
 
I'm sure we would have found someone else to fight if Russia had been neutralized. It's what we do.

I love it when we are told that the 10% of us who are of European descent are racists because we are protective of our own kind and culture and that we should embrace the other 90% who not only occupy the majority of the planet, a lot of which is Third World, but also want to occupy our bit too and turn that into the Third World. It's almost like they want us gone.

They do.

No nations, a vastly reduced population... and an elite class with a near slave class serving them.

Everything you see attacked and declining ends in that direction.....a lot of useful idiots on the left think these things end elsewhere (or that they will be the elites or favoured) but over time they just don't.

They need to learn elite theory.
 
The conflict has been going on for just over a week. You are talking like its another Vietnam.
I'm sure there is more to come yet.
I think you will be disappointed- Trump is on the phone to his mate Putin to discuss the arrangements. The ‘war’ will be over by the weekend- the straits re-opened and the oil prices will go down and the stock markets up.
Israel can carry on fighting Hamas and Hezbolah and the Iranians can go back to their daily lives.
What can’t you like about that?
 
They do.

No nations, a vastly reduced population... and an elite class with a near slave class serving them.

Everything you see attacked and declining ends in that direction.....a lot of useful idiots on the left think these things end elsewhere (or that they will be the elites or favoured) but over time they just don't.

They need to learn elite theory.
It's easy to manipulate the ignorant and even the not so ignorant when you control information and the narrative. The elites have lies and spin for all occasions.

Self preservation is the only strategy that makes sense.
 
I think you will be disappointed- Trump is on the phone to his mate Putin to discuss the arrangements. The ‘war’ will be over by the weekend- the straits re-opened and the oil prices will go down and the stock markets up.
Israel can carry on fighting Hamas and Hezbolah and the Iranians can go back to their daily lives.
What can’t you like about that?
Well I like to hear theories about how this all pans out and we will find who is right out soon enough.

If you promise a lot and deliver less, that can't look good. You can spin stuff so far but some things just won't wash.
 
Who on earth do you think can just give things away? The government has no money, it just manages ours. There have been plenty of financial incentives to encourage the transition to renewables. Is it urgent? That depends on how you define urgency. It isn’t in the short term, but as the impact is already evident it is in the mid to long term.
So the money is important now.
I see so it is urgent enough to tax us to death about saving the dolphins but not urgent enough to give us the stuff to save the dolphins for free. Looks like smoke and mirrors to me. David Bellamy thinks it’s a load of old bollox and strangely enough he’s been cancelled and his series was canned. Don’t you just think it’s strange that if someone doesn’t toe the line about it they suddenly are not required to be in the public eye. Even a little bit inquisitive… at all !
 

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