War in the Middle East

[McAhuna]

Great shot . . .

Video of US torpedo hitting Iranian warship released by Pentagon

US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said the US military has sunk "an Iranian warship" in the Indian Ocean with a torpedo.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not really.
Loads of fatalities. Loads of mourning families. Kids left without fathers.
So corrupt governments can have a dick-waving competition.
But each to their own.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Ahh I see.
Also, they aggressively positioned their country next to all these US bases.

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This is not a TV series called 'Lost' where the island was moved...

 

[Common Sense Club]

We all have those.

Also, define which weapons they have that are aggressive and not "passive defensive" (whatever the feck that means in the context of ordnance) ?

I am also not impressed with this constant reference to the state sponsorship of terrorism point hauled out to justify any action against Iran. When pressed for evidence of this, after some umming and arring, people are left only with proxy wars in the region (no way has the West ever engaged in them), and radical Islamic organizations whose sole ambit is the destruction of Israel.

On the latter, a valid point; but not our war. Israel is big enough and ugly enough to look after its own problems. Did we enlist their help (or anyone's) in Northern Ireland?

When pressed for terrorism by Iran directly against British (or other Western) interests..? The last time I raised the point, someone actually referenced the kidnap of US embassy staff in 1979!!!

Also, define which weapons they have that are aggressive and not "passive defensive" (whatever the feck that means in the context of ordnance) ?

Let's just say that passive defensive means a system that remains inoperable until it is needed to destroy an attack, rather like the iron dome used by Israel. I'm pretty sure Iran have similar systems on a local basis but considerably more money seems to have been invested in drones and ballistic missiles which are attack orientated. Some of this exported to terrorist groups in the region.

Yes, I know we have them too, but we also have a democracy. Again, another difference.

I'm with you in that this is not our war but we have to try and do the best in the circumstances.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Not really.
Loads of fatalities. Loads of mourning families. Kids left without fathers.
So corrupt governments can have a dick-waving competition.
But each to their own.

this is not a discussion about the overbearing Welfare State. Taxing the daylights out of working people ( workers with or without kids) and then lavishing every single mummy with a Porsche & a free house.