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Virginia Giuffre dead.

PalazioVecchio said:
one of the most famous photo's of our generation.

www.nbcnews.com

Virginia Giuffre, one of Jeffrey Epstein's most prominent abuse survivors, dies by suicide

Other Epstein victims credited Giuffre with giving them the courage to speak out.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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She never appeared stable to me....mind you we can hardly blame her.....nevertheless if this is how it appears to be then it's just another tragic consequence of the evil that is allowed to happen with clear cut sexual exploitation....not the 'me-two' stuff we were mostly sold.....human trafficking is pure evil in comparison and is still happening by people who our leaders still refuse to hold to the spotlight and to account.....probably because in this case it implicates intelligence services and their connection to the powerful.

You control the poor with money.

You control the wealthy with blackmail.

The poor you can't control you deny access to the megaphone and jobs.

The wealthy you can't control you ruin in anyway possible via media and courts...As in Musk and Trump.

Also the assassination attempts on Trump and the pipe-bombs in 2020 are highly suspicious to me.....and the radio silence speaks.
 
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People will refer to her being murdered and all the rest of it but from what I'm hearing this is something that's face value. It seems she had kidney problems and was getting ill and it's not related to the bus accident but something they discovered because of it.

She is a huge reason why Epstein and Maxwell and Brunel all landed behind bars and why Prince Andrew lost over ten million. She did great damage to a pedophile network. But they also did great damage to her.
 
Last week Andy was back in Royal circles. This 'Royal' now has blood on his hands. I hope he is rightfully denonced and put out of the public eye again.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
Possibly, Diana part 2, i always wonder why, the only servivor of the diana crash, Trevor Rees-Jones is unapproachable because of "national security", what a joke, the only, known, witness at the crash is unapproachable, my arse.
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Perhaps because he knew who in the armaments world would want to get rid of a woman mounting a worldwide campaign against land mines and the beloved son of a dodgy Egyptian who may or may not have had grubby fingers in the arms deal pie, and they want to keep him safe in case he fully remembers......

Anyway, back to Virginia
 
is it Nonce sense ?
The woman had issues, but why did Andy get his mum to pay VG an alleged £10M ?
That photo, and Pizza Express. His Andyship caused all of this with his Epstein friendship, and his fetish for sticking his bits in underage (according to US law) girls
 
Epstein
Virginia Giuffre
David Kelly ....Government weapons expert
Marilyn Monroe
General Patton
Graffiti Artist Robbo
Lee Harvey Oswald
The Vatican Banker hanging under Blackfriars Bridge


in all cases you can a) believe the conspiracy theories or b) believe the official narrative in the newspapers, or c) make up your own story.......anything to explain a convenient deletion of somebody troublesome & problematic. I have always said, if you live in Stalin's Russia, you keep your head down and don't rock the boat - and certainly don't attract attention to yourself. And i hate to tell you mate, we ALL live in Stalin's Russia.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
is there any credence to this ?

www.standard.co.uk

Virginia Guiffre’s ‘no way’ suicide tweet resurfaces after death

Giuffre was found dead at her home in western Australia on Friday
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
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The tweet they reference is said to be six years old.

Since then her twenty year marriage collapsed and she became estranged from her children, then there was the bus accident upon which they found very serious kidney problems (not caused by the accident) and family confirmed that she 'self medicated' to off herself.
 
PalazioVecchio said:
Epstein
Virginia Giuffre
David Kelly ....Government weapons expert
Marilyn Monroe
General Patton
Graffiti Artist Robbo
Lee Harvey Oswald
The Vatican Banker hanging under Blackfriars Bridge


in all cases you can a) believe the conspiracy theories or b) believe the official narrative in the newspapers, or c) make up your own story.......anything to explain a convenient deletion of somebody troublesome & problematic. I have always said, if you live in Stalin's Russia, you keep your head down and don't rock the boat - and certainly don't attract attention to yourself. And i hate to tell you mate, we ALL live in Stalin's Russia.
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The deep state is real, because different power centres are real and the reality that the intelligence and security state have effectively considerable influence over democratic leaders is obvious and expected.

When there is a considerable difference in ideas between these institutions and democratically elected leaders I think we have all seen over the last few years just how they can effectively stifle and mislead them.....if the deep state doesn't want you then it's difficult to get things done. It's why Trump 2.0, stopped trusting them and went with radically different leaders second time around.

In the US especially post WW2 the overpowered nature of the 'military complex' was warned about by Eisenhower when leaving office and their activities in overthrowing governments and assassinations something that Obama himself admitted to during his tenure. Kennedy was well known, after the bay of pigs, to not only distrust the CIA but want to take its power away, which many of us suspect played a major role in his assassination.

This massive over-reach continued until the Church committee hearings in the seventies, where the Kennedy files confirm that the CIA and intelligence leaders knowingly lied when answering questions. It's reported that the agencies were spooked by those hearings and power was curtailed to some level.....However, reports of many dark operations, MK ultra, drug running and Epstein (honeypot-blackmail via sex trafficking) can suggest to lots of us that intelligence services can contain a considerable criminal 'off the books' nature little different to a mafia.....the funding of these agencies and the failure to audit them provides indirect evidence that is hard to deny.....they literally operate on a 'plausible deniability' basis.....They aren't about truth and justice, they are about achieving their ends.

With what has gone on since Trump was elected in 2016 and especially during his 2024 campaign has justifiably led many of us to suspect more illegal conspiracy and many of us suspect dark 'off the books' criminality there too.
 
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