Villa v Maccabi

CPFCSaturn said:
Grow up with the performative guff.

I posted because it’s a very relevant bit of news that in the very next European away day after their ban, the Maccabi fans have once again acted like thugs in a foreign city.
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Not sure it’s me who needs to grow up. What point I raised was wrong? Take your anti- Israel glasses off and think about it
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Grow up with the performative guff.

I posted because it’s a very relevant bit of news that in the very next European away day after their ban, the Maccabi fans have once again acted like thugs in a foreign city.
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Gosh! Well, that’s Palace fans banned from any progression in the Conference League following their violence and chants in Strasbourg.
 
Spiderman said:
Not sure it’s me who needs to grow up. What point I raised was wrong? Take your anti- Israel glasses off and think about it
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Think about what?

Do I think Palace fans should be banned if we behave, en masse, as the Maccabi fans have in foreign cities? Absolutely, yes.

Do you not?
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Think about what?

Do I think Palace fans should be banned if we behave, en masse, as the Maccabi fans have in foreign cities? Absolutely, yes.

Do you not?
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So every Maccabi fan acted like a thug? Sweeping statement. And my other points? The alleged intelligence from Dutch Police proved to be false? I hate all forms of racism but the banning of Maccabi fans from Villa was nothing more than pressure from the Muslim Community. I’m sure WMP have dealt with more potentially explosive football situations with never a thought of banning away fans. Do you not agree this was a politically driven decision?
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Do you think the footage of the Maccabi fans is comparable to what went on in Strasbourg?
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I don’t know; I don’t possess a chart that lets me grade the level of violence, chants etc. Do I grade an anti-Palestinian chant higher or lower than an anti-Israeli one? Do I grade a smaller number of people chanting higher or lower if they are louder than a larger group chanting? Do I penalise one side higher for not liking their club colours. It’s so confusing…
 
Spiderman said:
So every Maccabi fan acted like a thug? Sweeping statement. And my other points? The alleged intelligence from Dutch Police proved to be false? I hate all forms of racism but the banning of Maccabi fans from Villa was nothing more than pressure from the Muslim Community. I’m sure WMP have dealt with more potentially explosive football situations with never a thought of banning away fans. Do you not agree this was a politically driven decision?
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How have you deduced that from what I said 🤣🤣

Plenty of club’s fans have been banned from European away trips due to trouble caused previously - I don’t see why this time it was considered so outrageous.
 
Common Sense Club said:
I don’t know; I don’t possess a chart that lets me grade the level of violence, chants etc. Do I grade an anti-Palestinian chant higher or lower than an anti-Israeli one? Do I grade a smaller number of people chanting higher or lower if they are louder than a larger group chanting? Do I penalise one side higher for not liking their club colours. It’s so confusing…
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Ah, you need a chart.
 
Common Sense Club said:
Yes. If I am to form a balanced opinion I need to know what chants are acceptable and what aren’t. I also need to know what number of people are considered a threat to the peace. Is it 3000 or 2?
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Do you think the chart would consider this an acceptable chant?

“You are Arab whores
We will f*** you
And drink your blood
We will rape your girls”


Just normal football fans.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Do you think the chart would consider this an acceptable chant?

“You are Arab whores
We will f*** you
And drink your blood
We will rape your girls”


Just normal football fans.
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Sorry, but that sounds more like something you could hear at an extremist Islamic meeting, although I appreciate that both sides probably have the same ancestry if you go back a couple of hundred years.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
How have you deduced that from what I said 🤣🤣

Plenty of club’s fans have been banned from European away trips due to trouble caused previously - I don’t see why this time it was considered so outrageous.
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En masse what did you mean by that? It was outrageous because it was, apparently, based on intel from the Dutch police. That intel did not exist and this was quite obviously a political decision driven by the Muslim run Birmingham Council. are so blinkered that you can’t even acknowledge this?
 
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