VAR

Dogburger said:
Thought it was a great decision myself . Nothing that happened there was reason to chalk it off

Listening to Neville moaning about it was comedy gold
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Just watched it for the first time. I think the correct decision was reached.

However... there was nothing clear and obvious about it, therefore original decision should have stood.

Too much VAR intervention is killing the game. The euphoria of celebrating your team scoring a big goal is the best thing in sport (perhaps in life?). That moment of delirium has been taken away.

As far as I'm concerned a 'clear and obvious' error happens perhaps 5 time a season (phantom goal / 5 yards offside scenario). These errors can be rectified with one 10 second replay. This is what I though we were signing up to. Not a micro analysis on every significant match moment.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
The Professional Referees Organisation have now said the goal should have been disallowed. Oh, well. I'm over it.
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But they didn't say the goal should have been disallowed .What they said was that they (VAR ) went beyond their remit in telling the ref to award the goal and that it should have been referred back to the ref for an on field review

We all know what that normally means .
 
Goal Machine said:
Just watched it for the first time. I think the correct decision was reached.

However... there was nothing clear and obvious about it, therefore original decision should have stood.

Too much VAR intervention is killing the game. The euphoria of celebrating your team scoring a big goal is the best thing in sport (perhaps in life?). That moment of delirium has been taken away.

As far as I'm concerned a 'clear and obvious' error happens perhaps 5 time a season (phantom goal / 5 yards offside scenario). These errors can be rectified with one 10 second replay. This is what I though we were signing up to. Not a micro analysis on every significant match moment.
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I hate VAR and would remove it from the game .But we have it and would disagree that it wasn't clear and obvious .
The original decision was offside against Halland which was a clear and obvious mistake .

The argument was whether City's Argie who was in an offside position stopped Utds Argie from playing the ball . That was a subjective decision so should have been referred back to an on field review
 
Dogburger said:
But they didn't say the goal should have been disallowed .What they said was that they (VAR ) went beyond their remit in telling the ref to award the goal and that it should have been referred back to the ref for an on field review

We all know what that normally means .
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I was paraphrasing because it's amusing when Man U get stuffed at home by an error. Palace getting away with one there would obviously be better but a 10 man Citeh team turning them over is pretty funny too.
 
Dogburger said:
I hate VAR and would remove it from the game .But we have it and would disagree that it wasn't clear and obvious .
The original decision was offside against Halland which was a clear and obvious mistake .

The argument was whether City's Argie who was in an offside position stopped Utds Argie from playing the ball . That was a subjective decision so should have been referred back to an on field review
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Ref Watch will be entertaining today - Dermot Gallagher will be in full squirm mode trying to justify the decision.
 
VAR - a machine made of electronics, cables, computer chips etc created to assist the referees in making the correct judgement. And therein lies the problem - the people who administer VAR, the self same referees prone to error, arguably corrupt or incompetent - what possibly could go wrong?
 
I just don't see what VAR has brought to the game, apart from contraversy. It takes an age to come to a decision, and even then it's not guarenteed to be correct.
When it is correct it's often 'splitting hairs' where a toe is offside, which doesn't really matter or give any real advantage.

If it offered certainty and an universally accepted decision, like the implementations in cricket and tennis, then it could be backed. right now, it's doing more harm than good.
 
Dogburger said:
Thought it was a great decision myself . Nothing that happened there was reason to chalk it off

Listening to Neville moaning about it was comedy gold
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Do you understand football?

If a player is standing in the middle of the area and dives in front of the keeper to get to the ball he must be interfering with play. Surely that's an obvious. Whether he touched it or not is irrelevant as his actions put the defender off (who moved away from Haaland to try and challenge) and the keeper, who was set up for the header.

The second point is that it was given offside on the pitch. Now, some have said that was for Haaland and he was proven to be onside by a few millimetres, however, how do we know who the linesman was flagging for?

If it wasn't a clear and obvious error surely the on field decision stands.

The whole thing stinks - we now have jobsworths on VAR who don't understand the rules.
 
palace99 said:
Do you understand football?

If a player is standing in the middle of the area and dives in front of the keeper to get to the ball he must be interfering with play. Surely that's an obvious. Whether he touched it or not is irrelevant as his actions put the defender off (who moved away from Haaland to try and challenge) and the keeper, who was set up for the header.

The second point is that it was given offside on the pitch. Now, some have said that was for Haaland and he was proven to be onside by a few millimetres, however, how do we know who the linesman was flagging for?

If it wasn't a clear and obvious error surely the on field decision stands.

The whole thing stinks - we now have jobsworths on VAR who don't understand the rules.
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I think Dogburger must have been on a wind up mate.

No one can ever look at that move and say that Enzo was not offside (according to the current offside laws and explanations re interpretation).
 
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