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The point is often made that migrants come to Britain because they speak English; in the example given Venezuelans have passed through four Spanish speaking countries to get to America. Or they could head south instead of north.
Different set of circumstances.

The UK and the non English speaking countries being passed through are all stable, law abiding and relatively prosperous.

Not so for the Venezuelans trying to enter the USA.

In fact the truth is that using English will get you by in most places so it’s an excuse and not a reason.
 
The truth hurts, doesn't it! 👍🏻
Does it? Have a thin skin and getting your feelings mauled by “hurty” words? Never mind. It will all be over soon with any luck.

When the Murdoch owned, right wing and highly influential, Wall Street Journal calls for Trump to face another impeachment even you must accept things are getting serious:-


This is very new and not yet attracted much attention. It’s a big deal though.

Add to that the fact that the Judge who has told the administration to return the deportees has been advised that they can themselves appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the administration if the JD refuse, which they will, and the wheels are turning.
 
Does it? Have a thin skin and getting your feelings mauled by “hurty” words? Never mind. It will all be over soon with any luck.

When the Murdoch owned, right wing and highly influential, Wall Street Journal calls for Trump to face another impeachment even you must accept things are getting serious:-


This is very new and not yet attracted much attention. It’s a big deal though.

Add to that the fact that the Judge who has told the administration to return the deportees has been advised that they can themselves appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the administration if the JD refuse, which they will, and the wheels are turning.
It’s one guy’s take, amplified by the usual anti-trump TDS echo chamber.

impeachment over a policy disagreement is laughable. Trump is doing what he promised and what he was voted in for.

Trump is deporting dangerous gang members and activist judges are trying to stop it. 👍🏻

The wheels are spinning in the mud of desperate people like you who can’t accept Trump is back in charge. It's going to be a glorious 4 years and it's barely been 4 months 😃

Also we are all still waiting on proof that China and fauci didn’t have involvement in that lab. Maybe hunter’s laptop has the answers? 🤪
 
It’s one guy’s take, amplified by the usual anti-trump TDS echo chamber.

impeachment over a policy disagreement is laughable. Trump is doing what he promised and what he was voted in for.

Trump is deporting dangerous gang members and activist judges are trying to stop it. 👍🏻

The wheels are spinning in the mud of desperate people like you who can’t accept Trump is back in charge. It's going to be a glorious 4 years and it's barely been 4 months 😃

Also we are all still waiting on proof that China and fauci didn’t have involvement in that lab. Maybe hunter’s laptop has the answers? 🤪
Yeah of course. It's already becoming a golden age because everyone's buying gold. Now that US Gov bonds have started to wobble it could start to get very scary.
Yep Trump has indeed achieved a lot in 4 months.
 
Different set of circumstances.

The UK and the non English speaking countries being passed through are all stable, law abiding and relatively prosperous.

Not so for the Venezuelans trying to enter the USA.

In fact the truth is that using English will get you by in most places so it’s an excuse and not a reason.
They could also head south rather than risk going to America.
 
How would Orwell have described the Trump administration?

'Ve haf ways of extracting your rare earth and minerals'.

“Fascism has nothing to do with capitalism. Fascism is just a kind of meaningless wickedness, an aberration, ‘mass sadism’, the sort of thing that would happen if you suddenly let loose an asylumful of homicidal maniacs.”

😎
 
How would Orwell have described the Trump administration?

'Ve haf ways of extracting your rare earth and minerals'.

“Fascism has nothing to do with capitalism. Fascism is just a kind of meaningless wickedness, an aberration, ‘mass sadism’, the sort of thing that would happen if you suddenly let loose an asylumful of homicidal maniacs.”

😎
Well, one thing we can be sure of, he would not spout nonsense.
 
How would Orwell have described the Trump administration?

'Ve haf ways of extracting your rare earth and minerals'.

“Fascism has nothing to do with capitalism. Fascism is just a kind of meaningless wickedness, an aberration, ‘mass sadism’, the sort of thing that would happen if you suddenly let loose an asylumful of homicidal maniacs.”

😎

Orwell was an opponent of Fascism, very true, however he was also an opponent of communism.....he had equal distaste for progressive ideology.....As seen in the famous quote:

'It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true, that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during "God Save the King" than stealing from a poor box'.

He was basically anti authoritarian and he understood the English identity and didn't look down on its working class.
 
It’s one guy’s take, amplified by the usual anti-trump TDS echo chamber.

impeachment over a policy disagreement is laughable. Trump is doing what he promised and what he was voted in for.

Trump is deporting dangerous gang members and activist judges are trying to stop it. 👍🏻

The wheels are spinning in the mud of desperate people like you who can’t accept Trump is back in charge. It's going to be a glorious 4 years and it's barely been 4 months 😃

Also we are all still waiting on proof that China and fauci didn’t have involvement in that lab. Maybe hunter’s laptop has the answers? 🤪
You spectacularly miss the point, which is regrettably not unusual.

This was published in a right leaning Murdoch owned newspaper. Evidence that the most influencual media baron in the world has withdrawn his support.

Watch Fox follow. If they do Trump is toast.
 
Orwell was an opponent of Fascism, very true, however he was also an opponent of communism.....he had equal distaste for progressive ideology.....As seen in the famous quote:

'It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true, that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during "God Save the King" than stealing from a poor box'.

He was basically anti authoritarian and he understood the English identity and didn't look down on its working class.
Orwell is not alone in opposing both fascism and communism. Many do. Those who stand on the centre ground, like me, particularly so.

That quote is far from unquestionably true! I question it for one! I would happily stand to attention for the national anthem but never steal from anyone or anything.
 
You spectacularly miss the point, which is regrettably not unusual.

This was published in a right leaning Murdoch owned newspaper. Evidence that the most influencual media baron in the world has withdrawn his support.

Watch Fox follow. If they do Trump is toast.

A Murdoch rag turning on Trump? That’s not evidence.

Trump’s supporters doesn’t need Fox they are with him because he is delivering on promises made.

Still no lab leak proof? Fauci’s emails might be a good start. 👍🏻
 
A Murdoch rag turning on Trump? That’s not evidence.

Trump’s supporters doesn’t need Fox they are with him because he is delivering on promises made.

Still no lab leak proof? Fauci’s emails might be a good start. 👍🏻
He’s losing his allies - nothing to do with evidence. Good job he’s still got you lot on here eh. Pretty soon you’ll be the last ones left.
 
Difference is Sleepy’s four years were no where near as damaging to the US as 4 months under Trump. But in your twilight world Trumps doing just fine. LOL

Trump’s got the economy buzzing, borders are tightening, and gang members / illegal aliens a one way ticket out. Which is exactly what the people voted for.

It go a whole lot better if activist judges were not throwing their toys out of their prams.
 
How would Orwell have described the Trump administration?

'Ve haf ways of extracting your rare earth and minerals'.

“Fascism has nothing to do with capitalism. Fascism is just a kind of meaningless wickedness, an aberration, ‘mass sadism’, the sort of thing that would happen if you suddenly let loose an asylumful of homicidal maniacs.”

😎
You throw words around with no understanding, one of the most consistent fascists here is you and your Jew hate
 
Orwell is not alone in opposing both fascism and communism. Many do. Those who stand on the centre ground, like me, particularly so.

That quote is far from unquestionably true! I question it for one! I would happily stand to attention for the national anthem but never steal from anyone or anything.
Despite your Orwellian attempt to change history, the quote is completely accurate, it is in my copy of The Collected Essays 1940-1943 - Journalism and Letters of George Orwell Volume 2 My Country Right or Left. It is in the essay ‘The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius – Part I: England Your England’.

In it he also says that:
“There is little in them except the irresponsible carping of people who have never been and never expect to be in a position of power. Another marked characteristic is the emotional shallowness of people who live in a world of ideas and have little contact with physical reality … And underlying this is the really important fact about so many of the English intelligentsia – their severance from the common culture of the country. In intention, at any rate, the English intelligentsia are Europeanized. They take their cookery from Paris and their opinions from Moscow. … England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet pudding. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true, that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during God Save the King than stealing from a poor box.”
 
Different set of circumstances.

The UK and the non English speaking countries being passed through are all stable, law abiding and relatively prosperous.

Not so for the Venezuelans trying to enter the USA.

In fact the truth is that using English will get you by in most places so it’s an excuse and not a reason.
Re 2nd paragraph. So absolutely no reason for the thousands crossing the Channel to do so then?
 
You're quick to dismiss one view as influenced by propaganda while fully endorsing another country's.
Not at all.

I am merely saying that without evidence we don’t know. All we have are hypotheses.

What the Chinese have said may well be untrue but they have mostly said nothing. Unlike the Trump administration who are pushing their hypothesis as fact. Which it isn’t. Hence propaganda.
 

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