US Politics

[Wisbech Eagle]

The Jewish vote is strongly pro-Trump. And yet the AntiSemitic Left like to continue with the slurs. Something similar in the UK (& Ireland). AntiSemitic Labour politicians a go go. Calling everybody else a Nazi.

Trump is trying to stop Third World immigration. Its another brave move from him. Even if it fails, he continues to move the Lefty Overton window. By doing and saying the previously unsayable.

Have you ever read Andrew Torba?

The Christian Nationalist movement in the USA is extremely far right and also extremely anti semitic.

That many on the left are strongly anti the current government of Israel that doesn’t make them the least anti semitic, does it?

 

[eaglesdare]

Maybe, but it real enough. Didn’t cost me a penny personally and nor were my insurance premiums raised. The insurers knew it was a scam. Maybe I didn’t mention that the scammer, who was built like the proverbial toilet block, was an immigrant who used a translator to give his “evidence”!

Of course, the plot thickens! Big lad, translator, clearly a criminal mastermind. The judge probably just felt sorry for him 🤣

 

[eaglesdare]

Nonsense. No one is painting Trump in any way other than he is. There is no need to exaggerate anything. He manages to condemn himself perfectly well. That nutters decided to shoot him, Kirk and others has nothing to do with the Democrats misleading people. It’s the policies being advanced by Trump that are enraging some less able to control themselves.

So Trump is the one inciting his own assassins? 🤣🤣 Victim blaming at its finest. The left's "Nazi" smears are the real fuel for these attacks.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

So Trump is the one inciting his own assassins? 🤣🤣 Victim blaming at its finest. The left's "Nazi" smears are the real fuel for these attacks.

Not on his own, nor deliberately, but the rhetoric from him and his supporters plus the extreme policies being pursued are such that a reaction is inevitable.

Whilst most of that is restrained and controlled criticism there will always be some in every society who go too far. When the things being done are as outrageous and potentially illegal as those of the Trump administration it ought to be no surprise that it has created a violent reaction from a few nutcases.

That doesn’t mean all who oppose are violent, approve of violence or are behind the violence. It means extreme policies tend to result in extreme reactions.

 

[eaglesdare]

Not on his own, nor deliberately, but the rhetoric from him and his supporters plus the extreme policies being pursued are such that a reaction is inevitable.

Whilst most of that is restrained and controlled criticism there will always be some in every society who go too far. When the things being done are as outrageous and potentially illegal as those of the Trump administration it ought to be no surprise that it has created a violent reaction from a few nutcases.

That doesn’t mean all who oppose are violent, approve of violence or are behind the violence. It means extreme policies tend to result in extreme reactions.

Funny how the only "extreme policies" that ever trigger assassination attempts are the ones beating Democrats in elections. When Obama deported millions and put kids in cages, or when sleepy Joe keeps the border chaos going, nobody tried to murder them. Weird how that works....

It's almost like the violence only flows one way… from the side that spent 8 years calling half the country literal Nazis.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Of course, the plot thickens! Big lad, translator, clearly a criminal mastermind. The judge probably just felt sorry for him 🤣

If he was a criminal mastermind he was also a great actor who spent his days mixing concrete and pretending to be a bully. The Judge was very unlikely to have felt sorry. My reading of the verdict was a warning to insurance companies not to bring these cases to Court but just settle them, whatever their merits, to save Court time.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Funny how the only "extreme policies" that ever trigger assassination attempts are the ones beating Democrats in elections. When Obama deported millions and put kids in cages, or when sleepy Joe keeps the border chaos going, nobody tried to murder them. Weird how that works....

It's almost like the violence only flows one way… from the side that spent 8 years calling half the country literal Nazis.

Maybe because what was done wasn’t accompanied by extreme rhetoric but explained as a necessary short term response to a surge of unaccompanied minors crossing the border. Done with compassion it merely separated the minors into categories whilst they awaited processing. It’s not only what you do that riles emotions. It’s also how you do it.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Maybe because what was done wasn’t accompanied by extreme rhetoric but explained as a necessary short term response to a surge of unaccompanied minors crossing the border. Done with compassion it merely separated the minors into categories whilst they awaited processing. It’s not only what you do that riles emotions. It’s also how you do it.

Trying to shoot someone through the head is certainly an emotionally riled reaction to a lack of compassion.

 

[eaglesdare]

Maybe because what was done wasn’t accompanied by extreme rhetoric but explained as a necessary short term response to a surge of unaccompanied minors crossing the border. Done with compassion it merely separated the minors into categories whilst they awaited processing. It’s not only what you do that riles emotions. It’s also how you do it.

Obama built the cages, sleepy joe kept them full and expanded separations. Same policies, zero assassination attempts. It's only “extreme” when an Trump does it. Funny how that works. And it's still one side doing the shooting.

 

[ASCPFC]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/politics/trump-venezuela-maduro-airspace.html

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Trying to shoot someone through the head is certainly an emotionally riled reaction to a lack of compassion.

Of course. Nutcases tend to be like that.

What riles people varies. Brenton Tarrant and James Earl Ray weren’t motivated by any lack of compassion either. Just hatred of others.

You, and others, might like to read this, which is an analysis of right wing, left wing and Islamic terrorism:-

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362083228_A_comparison_of_political_violence_by_left-wing_right-wing_and_Islamist_extremists_in_the_United_States_and_the_world

A key paragraph states:-

“Of these three ideologies, most prior research has contrasted those committed to right-wing and left-wing causes. Much of this research suggests that compared to left-wing extremists, right-wing extremists may be more likely to engage in politically motivated violence. In comparison to left-wing supporters, right-wing individuals are more often
characterized by closed-mindedness and dogmatism and a heightened need for order, structure, and cognitive closure. Because such characteristics have been found to increase in-group bias and lead to greater out-group hostility, violence for a cause may be more likely among proponents of right-wing ideologies. In contrast, in comparison to their right-wing counterparts, left-wing individuals score higher on
openness to new experiences, cognitive complexity, and tolerance of uncertainty.”

All of which seems self evidently true to me, but it is nevertheless good to know that research confirms it.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Obama built the cages, sleepy joe kept them full and expanded separations. Same policies, zero assassination attempts. It's only “extreme” when a Trump does it. Funny how that works. And it's still one side doing the shooting.

Read the report I linked to in my response to Teddy a moment ago!

Here is another key paragraph:-

“In short, our individual-level examination found that among
radicalized individuals in the United States, those adhering to a
left-wing ideology were markedly less likely to engage in violent
ideologically motivated acts when compared to right-wing indi-
viduals. By contrast, we found no such difference between
Islamist and right-wing individuals. Reanalyzing the data with
left-wing individuals being a reference category showed that the
difference between Islamist and left-wing individuals was also
significant.”

 

[georgenorman]

Not on his own, nor deliberately, but the rhetoric from him and his supporters plus the extreme policies being pursued are such that a reaction is inevitable.

Whilst most of that is restrained and controlled criticism there will always be some in every society who go too far. When the things being done are as outrageous and potentially illegal as those of the Trump administration it ought to be no surprise that it has created a violent reaction from a few nutcases.

That doesn’t mean all who oppose are violent, approve of violence or are behind the violence. It means extreme policies tend to result in extreme reactions.

By that 'logic', Corbyn, Polanski and most of the Labour backbenchers must be in great danger - not to mention far-left nutters on online forums..

 

[eaglesdare]

Read the report I linked to in my response to Teddy a moment ago!

Here is another key paragraph:-

“In short, our individual-level examination found that among
radicalized individuals in the United States, those adhering to a
left-wing ideology were markedly less likely to engage in violent
ideologically motivated acts when compared to right-wing indi-
viduals. By contrast, we found no such difference between
Islamist and right-wing individuals. Reanalyzing the data with
left-wing individuals being a reference category showed that the
difference between Islamist and left-wing individuals was also
significant.”

That article was conveniently from 2022.

Before the summer of BLM/Antifa riots and before all the assassination attempts we have witnessed recently due to dangerous rhetoric from the Democrats.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Of course. Nutcases tend to be like that.

What riles people varies. Brenton Tarrant and James Earl Ray weren’t motivated by any lack of compassion either. Just hatred of others.

You, and others, might like to read this, which is an analysis of right wing, left wing and Islamic terrorism:-

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362083228_A_comparison_of_political_violence_by_left-wing_right-wing_and_Islamist_extremists_in_the_United_States_and_the_world

A key paragraph states:-

“Of these three ideologies, most prior research has contrasted those committed to right-wing and left-wing causes. Much of this research suggests that compared to left-wing extremists, right-wing extremists may be more likely to engage in politically motivated violence. In comparison to left-wing supporters, right-wing individuals are more often
characterized by closed-mindedness and dogmatism and a heightened need for order, structure, and cognitive closure. Because such characteristics have been found to increase in-group bias and lead to greater out-group hostility, violence for a cause may be more likely among proponents of right-wing ideologies. In contrast, in comparison to their right-wing counterparts, left-wing individuals score higher on
openness to new experiences, cognitive complexity, and tolerance of uncertainty.”

All of which seems self evidently true to me, but it is nevertheless good to know that research confirms it.

OK, I read it. It's just the usual left wing claim to moral superiority.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

That article was conveniently from 2022.

Before the summer of BLM/Antifa riots and before all the assassination attempts we have witnessed recently due to dangerous rhetoric from the Democrats.

Do you seriously think that in anyway undermines the research? Which is deep, broad and over a much longer period than the last few years. The Trump years. Years that will become known as the most politically disturbed in the USA since the civil war.

It’s hardly surprising that such an extreme regime as Trump’s engenders extreme reactions.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

OK, I read it. It's just the usual left wing claim to moral superiority.

OK, so you dismiss a report by the National Academy of Sciences as by a “left wing” organisation?

Why? They have no political affiliation. Their sole purpose is to advance the understanding of a scientific approach.

National Academy of Sciences

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) is a private, nonprofit organization of the country’s leading researchers, recognizing and promoting outstanding science.

www.nasonline.org

 

[Teddy Eagle]

OK, so you dismiss a report by the National Academy of Sciences as by a “left wing” organisation?

Why? They have no political affiliation. Their sole purpose is to advance the understanding of a scientific approach.

National Academy of Sciences

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) is a private, nonprofit organization of the country’s leading researchers, recognizing and promoting outstanding science.

www.nasonline.org

No. I dismissed the sentiments expressed.

 

[eaglesdare]

Do you seriously think that in anyway undermines the research? Which is deep, broad and over a much longer period than the last few years. The Trump years. Years that will become known as the most politically disturbed in the USA since the civil war.

It’s hardly surprising that such an extreme regime as Trump’s engenders extreme reactions.

That "deep" research was done before 2022. I think the data is actually from before 2018? which would only be half of Trump's first term.

Regardless of if it's 2022 or 2018 it misses two Trump assassination attempts and Charlie kirks assassination. It left out attacks on Ice and national guard.

It also misses numerous Islamic and trans terrorist attacks that have occured recently.

Violence exploded under the lefts "threat to democracy" and "Nazi" hysteria, not Trump's.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

No. I dismissed the sentiments expressed.

Same thing. You are accusing the author of expressing personal opinions rather than reporting scientifically determined statistics.

In other words accusing a scientific journal of bias.